From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Suvayu Ali Subject: Re: Frame subtitles with org-e-beamer Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:53:07 +0200 Message-ID: <20120727115307.GA1375@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> References: <20120727013001.GA981@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <87ipd9zbis.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49135) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Suj6d-0000oC-Tn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:53:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Suj6X-00014V-RG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:53:19 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f41.google.com ([74.125.82.41]:39668) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Suj6X-00014I-Jr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:53:13 -0400 Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so593415wgb.0 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 04:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ipd9zbis.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: Emacs Org mode Hi Nicolas, On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:30:51PM +0200, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > Suvayu Ali writes: > > > In the old beamer backend it was possible to provide a subtitle by > > having a headline like this: > > > > * Frame title \\ frame subtitle > > > > In the new exporter this feature seems to be missing. Can this be > > added? > > I didn't include this "feature" because I wasn't comfortable with > introducing a new syntax specific to one back-end only. > I think that is a fair argument. > It's just a matter of doing: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > * Frame title > > #+BEAMER: \framesubtitle{subtitle} > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > This is how I worked around recently. This has a downside though, it doesn't let you easily use markup in the subtitle (in my case I wanted to use =keyword=). Of course this can be resolved by putting in by hand. > Otherwise, headlines could support a :BEAMER_SUBTITLE: property which > would just do that. > Same goes here, but I would say the #+BEAMER: solution is better in comparison. A subtitle is still part of the title, that means it probably should be easily visible. Given my above comment about visibility, one might then argue having a #+BEAMER: line does not serve that purpose either when the headline is folded. I'm not sure what is more important here, consistency between backends[1] or readability/usability(?). It would be interesting to hear what others think about this. Hopefully I was clear. Cheers, Footnotes: [1] IMO, an important reason for using org is backend agnostic markup. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.