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From: Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Standard property proposal (was: org-jira.el... and Org conventions (Bastien, Carsten and all))
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:34:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2012-01-04T00-22-49@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 80ipkt6wfe.fsf@somewhere.org

Hi!

* Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> wrote:
>
> But this triggers, for me, another "concern" which is the very wide variety of
> ways to define the same thing.
[...]

Totally agree to that.

> So, my point is: wouldn't it be better if we proposed standard properties in
> Org (in the manual), and implemented mappings in the Org "integration"
> packages (org-jira, org-taskjuggler, org-redmine and the like)?
>
> So, say for example that, from now on, it's more standard in Org to use
> "Assignee" (or anything else) for representing who's assigned a task, and have
> every package map the property "Assignee" to whatever keyword used in external
> tools for representing that concept?

I'd say that this issue is a HUGE one for the future of Org-mode. It
is ubiquitous to users all over. I myself had troubles adopting
org-contacts[1][2] because of only one single email property defined. 

When I started developing software that *massively* converts user
data into Org-mode format[3], I felt this strange itch, whether my
property definitions are well chosen or not ...

I *love* the fact that Org-mode is so lightweight and so heavy the
same time - just as the user wants it.

But using conventions also has some drawbacks. Whenever someone
wants to define a certain format with properties for example, she
has to define her own way. If there is an Org-mode extension using
similar data, users woun't notice until some data show up on this
list and another Org-mode user is adding a hint.

So a free-to-use recommendation list of standard properties would be
*very* fine.

Part of my research work is in the field of information architecture
for personal information management. If I can be of any help in some
kind of discussion and definition process, I'd be glad.

[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/47478
[2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/45347
[3] https://github.com/novoid/Memacs

-- 
Karl Voit

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-03 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-02 12:08 org-jira.el Bao Haojun
2012-01-03  8:07 ` org-jira.el... and Org conventions (Bastien, Carsten and all) Sebastien Vauban
2012-01-03 15:53   ` Bao Haojun
2012-01-03 16:25     ` Sebastien Vauban
2012-01-03 16:28     ` Allen S. Rout
2012-01-04 16:47       ` Bastien
2012-01-04 17:13         ` Nick Dokos
2012-01-03 23:34   ` Karl Voit [this message]
2012-01-04 16:50     ` Standard property proposal Bastien
2012-01-03 13:49 ` org-jira.el Marc Spitzer
2012-01-04 16:52 ` org-jira.el Bastien
2012-01-04 17:53   ` org-jira.el Nick Dokos
2012-01-05 10:00     ` org-jira.el Bastien
2012-01-05 14:42       ` org-jira.el Bao Haojun
2012-01-05 17:08         ` org-jira.el Jonathan Arkell
2012-01-06  0:32           ` org-jira.el Bao Haojun
2012-01-06 15:24           ` org-jira.el Bao Haojun
2012-01-04 18:36   ` org-jira.el Richard Riley
2012-01-04 19:49     ` org-jira.el Mehul Sanghvi
2012-01-05 10:01     ` org-jira.el Bastien
2012-01-05 15:42 ` org-jira.el OSiUX
2012-01-06  0:28   ` org-jira.el Bao Haojun
2012-01-06 15:54   ` org-jira.el Bao Haojun
2012-01-09 20:26     ` org-jira.el OSiUX
2012-01-10  2:40       ` org-jira.el Bao Haojun

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