From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:24:35 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0203436286==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbHP-0004du-2T for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:24:43 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbHO-0004df-Du for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:24:42 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbHO-0004dX-AW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:24:42 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.168]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKbHO-0001He-2i for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:24:42 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so812568ugf.48 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:24:40 -0800 (PST) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: org-mode mailing list --===============0203436286== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-147576162 --Apple-Mail-9-147576162 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am considering the idea to move the org development to a public git repository. This is not yet sure and official, but if you want to take a look at the current state of the repository, check out http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git - Carsten --Apple-Mail-9-147576162 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode --===============0203436286==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Phil Jackson Subject: Re: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:31:52 +0000 Message-ID: <87zlumypsn.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbOT-0007w1-Nv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:32:01 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbOR-0007tf-0x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:32:01 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbOQ-0007tZ-TQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:31:58 -0500 Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk ([81.187.30.53]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKbOQ-0003K9-Pe for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:31:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Carsten Dominik's message of "Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:24:35 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: org-mode mailing list Carsten Dominik writes: > I am considering the idea to move the org development to a public git > repository. This is a great move. Will you be taking on other "core" developers with push access? Cheers, Phil -- Phil Jackson http://www.shellarchive.co.uk From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: Re: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:33:39 -0500 Message-ID: <87y7a62eng.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbQC-0001b4-2e for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:33:48 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbQ9-0001W2-4f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:33:47 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbQ8-0001VE-R3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:33:44 -0500 Received: from mho-02-bos.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKbQ8-0003rS-LQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:33:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Carsten Dominik's message of "Thu\, 31 Jan 2008 16\:24\:35 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: org-mode mailing list Carsten Dominik writes: > I am considering the idea to move the org development to a public git repository. > > This is not yet sure and official, but if you want to take a look at the > current state of the repository, check out > > http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git \o/ :) I love git... everything else sucks by comparison :) Bernt From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:39:50 +0100 Message-ID: <4A1A58D4-4BE6-468C-B7EC-1324D354DD0D@science.uva.nl> References: <87y7a62eng.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbW9-0005ab-Iq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:39:57 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbW8-0005aA-49 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:39:57 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbW7-0005a0-RU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:39:55 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKbW7-0005jT-MD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:39:55 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so817275ugf.48 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:39:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y7a62eng.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bernt Hansen Cc: org-mode mailing list On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > Carsten Dominik writes: > >> I am considering the idea to move the org development to a public >> git repository. >> >> This is not yet sure and official, but if you want to take a look >> at the >> current state of the repository, check out >> >> http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git > > \o/ :) > > I love git... everything else sucks by comparison :) As far as I can see, mercurial is pretty similar. But compared to cvs, svn, yes, I totally agree. No looking back. - Carsten From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Russell Adams Subject: Re: Re: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:01:13 -0600 Message-ID: <20080131160113.GC16742@odin.demosthenes.org> References: <87y7a62eng.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <4A1A58D4-4BE6-468C-B7EC-1324D354DD0D@science.uva.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbqq-0001Rt-L4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:01:20 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbqo-0001RA-Ne for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:01:20 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKbqo-0001R1-HV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:01:18 -0500 Received: from squirtle.drak.net ([72.52.144.201]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKbqo-0002jf-6D for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:01:18 -0500 Received: from [206.180.154.177] (helo=localhost) by squirtle.drak.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JKbqf-0003FT-RT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:01:10 -0600 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A1A58D4-4BE6-468C-B7EC-1324D354DD0D@science.uva.nl> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org I'm a bazaar fan myself. I'd be curious if someone can point out where git is superior. ;] On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 04:39:50PM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > > >Carsten Dominik writes: > > > >>I am considering the idea to move the org development to a public > >>git repository. > >> > >>This is not yet sure and official, but if you want to take a look > >>at the > >>current state of the repository, check out > >> > >>http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git > > > >\o/ :) > > > >I love git... everything else sucks by comparison :) > > As far as I can see, mercurial is pretty similar. But > compared to cvs, svn, yes, I totally agree. No looking back. > > - Carsten > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ------------------------------------------------------------------ Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Adam Spiers Subject: Re: Re: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:33:00 +0000 Message-ID: <20080131163300.GC21213@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> References: <87y7a62eng.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <4A1A58D4-4BE6-468C-B7EC-1324D354DD0D@science.uva.nl> <20080131160113.GC16742@odin.demosthenes.org> Reply-To: Adam Spiers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKcLX-0002y9-Si for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:33:04 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKcLX-0002vx-1x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:33:03 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKcLW-0002vq-N8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:33:02 -0500 Received: from mail.beimborn.com ([70.84.38.100]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKcLW-00029H-F1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:33:02 -0500 Received: from mail.beimborn.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.beimborn.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m0VGX1Fj009301 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:33:01 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by mail.beimborn.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id m0VGX1SF009296 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:33:01 GMT Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080131160113.GC16742@odin.demosthenes.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 10:01:13AM -0600, Russell Adams wrote: > I'm a bazaar fan myself. I'd be curious if someone can point out where > git is superior. ;] I can't remember the details, but I'm pretty sure that I saw reference to issues with the design of the underlying backend. The most obvious symptom of this would be the performance difference - git is well-known to cream pretty much everything except mercurial (which IIRC has a very similar design, minus the object packing). But I'm sure some quick googling would tell you a lot more than my hazy memories do :-) From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Adam Spiers Subject: Re: Re: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:34:16 +0000 Message-ID: <20080131163416.GD21213@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> References: <87y7a62eng.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <4A1A58D4-4BE6-468C-B7EC-1324D354DD0D@science.uva.nl> Reply-To: Adam Spiers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKcMl-0004fD-Ki for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:34:19 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKcMk-0004dl-Sh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:34:18 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKcMk-0004dH-9X for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:34:18 -0500 Received: from mail.beimborn.com ([70.84.38.100]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKcMk-0002Sy-0L for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:34:18 -0500 Received: from mail.beimborn.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.beimborn.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m0VGYHkn009504 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:34:17 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by mail.beimborn.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id m0VGYG6u009497 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:34:16 GMT Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A1A58D4-4BE6-468C-B7EC-1324D354DD0D@science.uva.nl> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 04:39:50PM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: > On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > > >Carsten Dominik writes: > >>I am considering the idea to move the org development to a public > >>git repository. This would be superb! > >>This is not yet sure and official, but if you want to take a look > >>at the > >>current state of the repository, check out > >> > >>http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git > > > >\o/ :) > > > >I love git... everything else sucks by comparison :) > > As far as I can see, mercurial is pretty similar. But > compared to cvs, svn, yes, I totally agree. No looking back. Hear hear! mercurial is very similar, and the two of them seem to be streaks ahead of pretty much everything else. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Hugo Schmitt" Subject: Re: Re: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:22:33 -0300 Message-ID: <2f1c7d020801310922v7a2ba1d7u691ace69d827c72@mail.gmail.com> References: <87y7a62eng.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <4A1A58D4-4BE6-468C-B7EC-1324D354DD0D@science.uva.nl> <20080131163416.GD21213@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0549159921==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKd7V-00026y-9w for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:22:37 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKd7T-00025E-Do for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:22:36 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKd7T-000251-9C for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:22:35 -0500 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKd7S-0003ue-RK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:22:35 -0500 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so43107wah.10 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:22:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20080131163416.GD21213@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Adam Spiers , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============0549159921== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27933_26613601.1201800153046" ------=_Part_27933_26613601.1201800153046 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I use mercurial just because it's supposed to work better with windows (work). -Hugo On Jan 31, 2008 1:34 PM, Adam Spiers wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 04:39:50PM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > > > > >Carsten Dominik writes: > > >>I am considering the idea to move the org development to a public > > >>git repository. > > This would be superb! > > > >>This is not yet sure and official, but if you want to take a look > > >>at the > > >>current state of the repository, check out > > >> > > >>http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git > > > > > >\o/ :) > > > > > >I love git... everything else sucks by comparison :) > > > > As far as I can see, mercurial is pretty similar. But > > compared to cvs, svn, yes, I totally agree. No looking back. > > Hear hear! mercurial is very similar, and the two of them seem to be > streaks ahead of pretty much everything else. > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ------=_Part_27933_26613601.1201800153046 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I use mercurial just because it's supposed to work better with windows (work).
-Hugo

On Jan 31, 2008 1:34 PM, Adam Spiers <orgmode@adamspiers.org> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 04:39:50PM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
>
> >Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> >>I am considering the idea to move the org development to a public
> >>git repository.

This would be superb!

> >>This is not yet sure and official, but if you want to take a look
> >>at the
> >>current state of the repository, check out
> >>
> >>http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git
> >
> >\o/   :)
> >
> >I love git...  everything else sucks by comparison :)
>
> As far as I can see, mercurial is pretty similar.  But
> compared to cvs, svn, yes, I totally agree.  No looking back.

Hear hear!  mercurial is very similar, and the two of them seem to be
streaks ahead of pretty much everything else.


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------=_Part_27933_26613601.1201800153046-- --===============0549159921== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode --===============0549159921==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: Re: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:34:23 +0100 Message-ID: <87d4rhlx0g.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <87y7a62eng.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <4A1A58D4-4BE6-468C-B7EC-1324D354DD0D@science.uva.nl> <20080131160113.GC16742@odin.demosthenes.org> <20080131163300.GC21213@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKdJ8-0001A3-7x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:34:38 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKdJ5-00018L-Oo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:34:37 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKdJ5-00017l-8J for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:34:35 -0500 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.159]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKdJ4-0006Pz-LW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:34:34 -0500 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so755134fga.30 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:34:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20080131163300.GC21213@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> (Adam Spiers's message of "Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:33:00 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Adam Spiers writes: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 10:01:13AM -0600, Russell Adams wrote: >> I'm a bazaar fan myself. I'd be curious if someone can point out where >> git is superior. ;] > > I can't remember the details, but I'm pretty sure that I saw reference > to issues with the design of the underlying backend. The most obvious > symptom of this would be the performance difference - git is > well-known to cream pretty much everything except mercurial (which > IIRC has a very similar design, minus the object packing). > > But I'm sure some quick googling would tell you a lot more than my > hazy memories do :-) FYI Eric S. Raymond is working on a paper where all dVCS systems will be compared. The Emacs dev team is waiting for his conclusions in order to decide what system should be used instead of the actual CVS. But there is more to consider than technical benchmarks since RMS also insist on preferring a tool that is part of the GNU project. Of course this doesn't affect the choice of a tool for Org, and git sounds like a good one to me. -- Bastien From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Russell Adams Subject: Re: Re: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:47:53 -0600 Message-ID: <20080131174753.GD16742@odin.demosthenes.org> References: <87y7a62eng.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <4A1A58D4-4BE6-468C-B7EC-1324D354DD0D@science.uva.nl> <20080131160113.GC16742@odin.demosthenes.org> <20080131163300.GC21213@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <87d4rhlx0g.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKdW3-00046K-IP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:47:59 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKdW1-00045d-Px for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:47:59 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKdW1-00045R-E7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:47:57 -0500 Received: from squirtle.drak.net ([72.52.144.201]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKdW0-0000ya-Ug for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:47:57 -0500 Received: from [206.180.154.177] (helo=localhost) by squirtle.drak.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JKdVt-0006yY-44 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:47:49 -0600 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87d4rhlx0g.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org When I was selecting a VC, I narrowed it down to Bazaar or Git. Being a prior Arch user, Bazaar fixed most of my complaints while using the same architecture. I understand Git's got quite a following, and addresses many of the same shortcomings of CVS that Bazaar and other distributed VC's (darcs, mercurial, etc) do. I have been curious what Git could offer over Bazaar, other than optimization for large numbers of users checking out. I recall Linus said that Bazaar was too slow. ;] My requirements were easy branching and merging, plus no special servers needed (ie: ftp/http/ssh). Ironically, I rarely use VC with Org files, because most of my files have a short lifespan (1 per project). On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 06:34:23PM +0100, Bastien wrote: > Adam Spiers writes: > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 10:01:13AM -0600, Russell Adams wrote: > >> I'm a bazaar fan myself. I'd be curious if someone can point out where > >> git is superior. ;] > > > > I can't remember the details, but I'm pretty sure that I saw reference > > to issues with the design of the underlying backend. The most obvious > > symptom of this would be the performance difference - git is > > well-known to cream pretty much everything except mercurial (which > > IIRC has a very similar design, minus the object packing). > > > > But I'm sure some quick googling would tell you a lot more than my > > hazy memories do :-) > > FYI Eric S. Raymond is working on a paper where all dVCS systems will be > compared. The Emacs dev team is waiting for his conclusions in order to > decide what system should be used instead of the actual CVS. > > But there is more to consider than technical benchmarks since RMS also > insist on preferring a tool that is part of the GNU project. Of course > this doesn't affect the choice of a tool for Org, and git sounds like a > good one to me. > > -- > Bastien > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ------------------------------------------------------------------ Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jason Riedy Subject: Re: Git repository Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:52:29 -0800 Message-ID: <87fxwdakuq.fsf@sparse.yi.org> References: <87y7a62eng.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <4A1A58D4-4BE6-468C-B7EC-1324D354DD0D@science.uva.nl> <20080131160113.GC16742@odin.demosthenes.org> <20080131163300.GC21213@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <87d4rhlx0g.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <20080131174753.GD16742@odin.demosthenes.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKesV-0004C7-7V for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:15:15 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKesQ-0004Az-Iz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:15:14 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKesQ-0004Aw-GB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:15:10 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKesQ-0003vJ-BX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:15:10 -0500 Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JKesI-0003AD-OH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:15:02 +0000 Received: from 69-12-153-204.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net ([69.12.153.204]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:15:02 +0000 Received: from jason by 69-12-153-204.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:15:02 +0000 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org And Russell Adams writes: > When I was selecting a VC, I narrowed it down to Bazaar or Git. Being > a prior Arch user, Bazaar fixed most of my complaints while using the > same architecture. The Arch architecture doesn't fit everyone. In particular, a colleague and I used tla to shoot changes back and forth rapidly. We ended up with a history with at least 40% merge detritus. git doesn't bother recording merge information when the merge is trivial (a fast-forward of one history to match another). That fit our working model and my mental model better. Generally, git tracks contents rather than changes. That's how my head works as well, so most git functions do what I expect and want. Any technical differences are insignificant in comparison. Git and Mercurial archives can exist on the far side of a "dumb" transport like http. They're not ideal necessarily, but they function well enough. Jason From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Git repository Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:02:42 +0100 Message-ID: <3ACAA328-7306-49A0-9CAF-6BDAC62F0E5A@science.uva.nl> References: <87zlumypsn.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JLLlT-0003oF-B1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:02:51 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JLLlQ-0003n5-7D for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:02:50 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JLLlQ-0003n0-1E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:02:48 -0500 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.191]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JLLlP-00073K-H9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:02:47 -0500 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c27so1805768rvf.6 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:02:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87zlumypsn.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Phil Jackson Cc: org-mode mailing list On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Phil Jackson wrote: > Carsten Dominik writes: > >> I am considering the idea to move the org development to a public git >> repository. > > This is a great move. Will you be taking on other "core" developers > with push access? Yes, this is the plan. Bastien, David, and Piotr immediately for possible changes to their own files. More people, that will depend on FSF papers signed and on a working model on how to integrate changes into the main distribution. Maybe push for branches, so that other people can try out changes. I am still working out the details with git, need some more time. - Carsten