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From: "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net>
To: dominik@science.uva.nl
Cc: raman@users.sf.net, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: export to html and relative links:
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:48:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18434.21887.554746.137185@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83DA18C3-10D2-4286-95BE-8E81EA1D0652@science.uva.nl>

two suggestions:

1)  accept paths like "./foo.html" as local links.
2) Augment C-c C-l to react to file: by providing filename
completion relative to the working directory.

The emacs binding to the w3m browser does this if you type file: in the minibuffer
when prompted for a URL.

>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
    Carsten> Hmmmm, this is *such* a good idea, that I will
    Carsten> implement this retroactively into all versions since
    Carsten> ... 2.0 or so?  Abracadabra! Done.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> In fact, it has been working just so for a very long
    Carsten> time.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> file:foo.html -> href="foo.html" file:foo.org ->
    Carsten> href="foo.html"
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> The second line assumes that the org file foo.org
    Carsten> will also be converted to an html file in the
    Carsten> publishing process....
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Also, I was mistaken earlier:
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> http:foo.html becomes href="http:foo.html" and not
    Carsten> href="foo.html"
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> so this actually cannot be used for a local link.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> So what remains from this exchange?  Should we
    Carsten> accept links that look like absolute file names
    Carsten> (including ./foo.html) as equivalent to
    Carsten> file:./foo.html ?
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> - Carsten
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:25 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:
    Carsten> 
    >> 
> I think writing http:foo.html is a bad idea because typing that
    >> string in other contexts is sort of meaningless as a URL.
    >> Until now, everything one types in org-mode sort of has
    >> meaning elsewhere. If you want it to look like a url in
    >> this case too then I'd suggest file:foo.html -- rther than
    >> http:file.html.
    >> 
    >> I did not suggest that earlier because it's more chars to
    >> type, but that's not a huge concern since emacs does the
    >> typing, and we could always augment c-c c-l to enable
    >> authoring of relative links with file completion.
    >> 
    >> so file:a/b/c.html would become href="a/b/c.html" in the
    >> generated html.
    >> 
    >>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
    >>>>>>> writes:
    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 5:33 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:
    Carsten> 
    >>>> I've not tried http:foo.html -- but I suggest doing that
    >>>> to author a relative URL is a bad idea.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Can you explain why you think that this is a bad
    Carsten> idea?  Educate me!  What is wrong with writing
    Carsten> http:foo.html ??????
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> - Carsten
    Carsten> 
    >>>> 
>>
>> I tried ./foo.html and that didn't work either. One compromise
    >>>> would be to get ./foo.html to link to a relative url,
    >>>> while foo.html continues to link to a local anchor
    >>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik
    >>>>>>>>> <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:49 AM, T. V. Raman wrote:
    Carsten> 
    >>>>>> Hi,
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> org-export turns links of the form [[foo][link to
    >>>>>> relative url foo]]
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> ends up creating links of the form <a
    >>>>>> href="#foo">...</a>
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> this means that it becomes impossible to write
    >>>>>> hyperlinks that are relative URLs.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Hi Raman,
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> the url goes into the first pair of square brackets,
    Carsten> the description into the second.  If you put
    Carsten> something into the first bracket pair that does not
    Carsten> look lie a url, it will be treated as an internal
    Carsten> link.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Have you tried to use something like
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> [[http:foo.html][link to relative url]]
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> ?
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> - Carsten
    >>>> 
    >>>> -- 
    >>>> Best Regards, --raman
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
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    >> 
    >> -- 
    >> Best Regards, --raman
    >> 
    >> 
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--raman

      
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-13 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-13  4:49 export to html and relative links: T. V. Raman
2008-04-13  5:37 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-04-13 15:33   ` T. V. Raman
2008-04-13 15:54     ` Carsten Dominik
2008-04-13 16:25       ` T. V. Raman
2008-04-13 17:19         ` Carsten Dominik
2008-04-13 18:48           ` T. V. Raman [this message]
2008-04-13 19:35             ` Carsten Dominik
2008-04-13 20:32               ` T. V. Raman
2008-04-13 21:37                 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-06-24  6:38             ` Carsten Dominik
2008-06-24  8:36               ` Paul R
2008-06-24  9:39                 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-06-24  9:45                   ` Paul R

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