From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "T. V. Raman" Subject: Re: feature request: additional org/remember template escapes: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:13:10 -0700 Message-ID: <18140.20150.111452.383630@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <18136.60228.786047.404335@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Reply-To: raman@users.sf.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ISGQC-0004CM-Pv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:13:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ISGQC-0004By-E8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:13:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ISGQC-0004Bu-3B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:13:12 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISGQB-000517-Js for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:13:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: dominik@science.uva.nl Cc: raman@users.sf.net, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Yes, your suggested replacement for the message would be clearer. And thanks for the new template, org/remember is an amazing piece of work. >>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik writes: Carsten> On Sep 1, 2007, at 6:32, T. V. Raman wrote: Carsten> >> I've been using org with remember as my "Web Notebook" for >> the last 18 months. >> >> I browse exclusively from Emacs as an emacspeak user (w3 >> and W3M) and this is an incredibly useful thing to have. >> >> The one thing that prevents me from completely satisfied >> is the set of available template escapes -- based on what >> is possible, entries end up looking like: >> >> ** [[URL]] note >> >> where "note" is what I typed in the remember buffer. >> >> Ideally I'd like the above to be : >> >> ** [[URL][Note]] >> Carsten> Starting with 5.08, you will be able to use %A in the template. Carsten> It will insert the link, but explicitly prompt you Carsten> for the link description. Carsten> >> or even better, have the entry go in as a bullet rather >> than a section header. Carsten> Carsten> This is hard, because the whole note insertion of Carsten> remember notes is based on the outline structure. Carsten> No action for now. Carsten> >> Finally, I have never understood what the "inserted at >> level n shifted by m" message means, could we come up with >> better wording? I feel uneasy criticizing without a better >> suggestion, but I dont understand what it means fully, and >> am consequently reluctant to hazard at a better phrase. Carsten> Carsten> A remember note is an outline entry, i.e. it has a Carsten> first line with one or many stars. Notes are Carsten> inserted into the existing outline structure using Carsten> the command org-paste-subtree. The command is Carsten> clever about adjusting the outline level of the Carsten> inserted subtree, so that it correctly fits into the Carsten> local hierarchy. And to make sure the user Carsten> understands what just happened, it tells the user Carsten> what the new outline level of the inserted item is, Carsten> if it hat to be shifted (i.e. promoted or demoted Carsten> but removing or adding stars) to get there. At the Carsten> time of implementation this was more of a debugging Carsten> feedback than anything else. Carsten> Carsten> I guess this is reasonably useful feedback when Carsten> using the pasting commands explicitly, in an Carsten> interactive way. We could turn off the message in Carsten> non-interactive use like this (during remember Carsten> filing note storing). Carsten> Carsten> For interactive use, how about the simpler: Carsten> Carsten> "Clipboard pasted as level N subtree" Carsten> Carsten> Would that be clearer? Carsten> Carsten> - Carsten Carsten> Carsten> Carsten> Carsten> -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Carsten> Pannekoek" Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 Carsten> NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 Carsten> Carsten> Carsten> Carsten> _______________________________________________ Carsten> Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Best Regards, --raman Email: raman@users.sf.net WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs