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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.98 X-Spam-Score: -5.98 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4A33C7239B X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-TUID: CxuCb9kVkccV --------------PBeSAdDWhteJkYtT18yQRtUx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 08/10/2024 6:33, tomas at tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2024 at 08:42:24PM +0000, Kepa wrote: >> Hi, Ihor >> >> Sorry I don't know how mail lists work, so sometimes my answers don't go to the correct place. > This seems to work fine :) If I answer to the recived e-mail, it usually works. If try to answer from the mail archive, it usually doesn't work. > >> The cause was this line: >> (setq locale-coding-system 'utf-8) >> But I don't know why, and I would like to know. >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2024-09/msg00313.html > OK. Asking Emacs, it tells us about the variable `locale-coding-system': > > locale-coding-system is a variable defined in ‘C source code’. > > Its value is ‘utf-8-unix’ > > Coding system to use with system messages. > Potentially also used for decoding keyboard input on X Windows, > and is used for encoding standard output and error streams. > > Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 21.1. > > Now my questions to you: > > - this \341 thing happens directly when you enter á? No, I've never had problems entering anything. > - you are using X on some operating system (e.g. Gnu/Linux, > some BSD)? Windows OS > - if yes: go to a terminal (XTerm), type in "locale" > and tell us what the output is. > > My guess is that your X (if you have one) is set up to trade in > an unibyte encoding (most probably iso-8859-1 aka Latin-1) and > you told Emacs to expect utf-8 (the iso-8859-1 encoding for "á" > is one byte represented in octal as 341 and an illegal byte in > an UTF-8 stream: Emacs is smart enough to have a way to keep those > internally, and that is how it shows them). > > But alas, my guesses aren't always right :) Probably it's that. Windows takes the dates from locale, or something... > > Cheers Thanks! --------------PBeSAdDWhteJkYtT18yQRtUx Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


On 08/10/2024 6:33, tomas at tuxteam.de wrote:
On Mon, Oct 07, 2024 at 08:42:24PM +0000, Kepa wrote:

Hi, Ihor

Sorry I don't know how mail lists work, so sometimes my answers don't go to the correct place.

This seems to work fine :)
If I answer to the recived e-mail, it usually works. If try to answer from the mail archive, it usually doesn't work.


The cause was this line:
(setq locale-coding-system 'utf-8)
But I don't know why, and I would like to know.
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2024-09/msg00313.html

OK. Asking Emacs, it tells us about the variable `locale-coding-system':

  locale-coding-system is a variable defined in ‘C source code’.

  Its value is ‘utf-8-unix’

  Coding system to use with system messages.
  Potentially also used for decoding keyboard input on X Windows,
  and is used for encoding standard output and error streams.

  Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 21.1.

Now my questions to you:

- this \341 thing happens directly when you enter á?
No, I've never had problems entering anything.
- you are using X on some operating system (e.g. Gnu/Linux,
  some BSD)?
Windows OS
- if yes: go to a terminal (XTerm), type in "locale" <ENTER>
  and tell us what the output is.

My guess is that your X (if you have one) is set up to trade in
an unibyte encoding (most probably iso-8859-1 aka Latin-1) and
you told Emacs to expect utf-8 (the iso-8859-1 encoding for "á"
is one byte represented in octal as 341 and an illegal byte in
an UTF-8 stream: Emacs is smart enough to have a way to keep those
internally, and that is how it shows them).

But alas, my guesses aren't always right :)
Probably it's that. Windows takes the dates from locale, or something...

Cheers
Thanks!

    

  


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