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* calculation question
@ 2011-07-17 16:51 Jude DaShiell
  2011-07-18 23:10 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jude DaShiell @ 2011-07-17 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

When an org table like:
|---| time stamp | systalic | diastalic | pulse |
|-
| # | [2011-07-13 Wed 04:15] | 134 | 89 | 80 |

gets used and I want to calculate averages for systalic and diastalic and 
do that in the #+TBLFM: line do I use $2 and $3 for systalic and diastalic 
or do I use $3 and $4 because of the marker column?  

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* Re: calculation question
  2011-07-17 16:51 calculation question Jude DaShiell
@ 2011-07-18 23:10 ` Bastien
  2011-07-18 23:47   ` Bart Bunting
  2011-07-19  9:33   ` Jude DaShiell
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-07-18 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jude DaShiell; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Jude,

Please type C-c } on a table -- it displays coordinates of the 
cells so that you can more easily refer to the right one.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: calculation question
  2011-07-18 23:10 ` Bastien
@ 2011-07-18 23:47   ` Bart Bunting
  2011-07-19  8:13     ` Bastien
  2011-07-19  9:33   ` Jude DaShiell
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bart Bunting @ 2011-07-18 23:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien, Jude DaShiell; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Bastien,

I presume Jude is using emacspeak with org-mode.

I also use emacspeak.

I have noticed that emacspeak does not read anything done using
overlays.  I am presuming the column and row labels are done this way.

It also means that we can't use column view either as far as I know.

This as I understand it is not really an issue for org-mode but a
current emacspeak limitation.

I'm sure like all things emacs that this can be fixed given enough elisp
knowledge.  Perhaps it's worth Jude or I asking on the emacspeak list
for some advice as to how to solve this problem.


Kind regards

Bart

 

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:10:09 +0200, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Hi Jude,
> 
> Please type C-c } on a table -- it displays coordinates of the 
> cells so that you can more easily refer to the right one.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> -- 
>  Bastien
> 

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* Re: calculation question
  2011-07-18 23:47   ` Bart Bunting
@ 2011-07-19  8:13     ` Bastien
  2011-07-23 16:51       ` Michael Brand
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-07-19  8:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bart Bunting; +Cc: Jude DaShiell, emacs-orgmode

Hi Bart,

Bart Bunting <bart@bunting.net.au> writes:

> I have noticed that emacspeak does not read anything done using
> overlays.  I am presuming the column and row labels are done this way.

Yes, the references are displayed as an overlay.

> I'm sure like all things emacs that this can be fixed given enough elisp
> knowledge.  Perhaps it's worth Jude or I asking on the emacspeak list
> for some advice as to how to solve this problem.

Please do -- I'm not using emacspeak myself but I'm interested in
improving accessibility for tables.

Best regards,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: calculation question
  2011-07-18 23:10 ` Bastien
  2011-07-18 23:47   ` Bart Bunting
@ 2011-07-19  9:33   ` Jude DaShiell
  2011-07-19  9:40     ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jude DaShiell @ 2011-07-19  9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

After I use C-C } can I use c-p c-n c-l and c-r to move one cell up on 
cell down one cell left and one cell right respectively?

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, Bastien wrote:

> Hi Jude,
> 
> Please type C-c } on a table -- it displays coordinates of the 
> cells so that you can more easily refer to the right one.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 

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* Re: calculation question
  2011-07-19  9:33   ` Jude DaShiell
@ 2011-07-19  9:40     ` Bastien
  2011-07-19 13:34       ` Nick Dokos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-07-19  9:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jude DaShiell; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> writes:

> After I use C-C } can I use c-p c-n c-l and c-r to move one cell up on 
> cell down one cell left and one cell right respectively?

You can use C-n C-p to move down and up by one line, but you cannot use
C-r and C-l are these are fundamental Emacs keybindings doing something
else.  

You can navigate through cells using TAB: it will go to the next cell on
the same row, or to the first cell on the next row if you are at the
last cell in a row.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: calculation question
  2011-07-19  9:40     ` Bastien
@ 2011-07-19 13:34       ` Nick Dokos
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Nick Dokos @ 2011-07-19 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: Jude DaShiell, nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:

> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> writes:
> 
> > After I use C-C } can I use c-p c-n c-l and c-r to move one cell up on 
> > cell down one cell left and one cell right respectively?
> 
> You can use C-n C-p to move down and up by one line, but you cannot use
> C-r and C-l are these are fundamental Emacs keybindings doing something
> else.  
> 
> You can navigate through cells using TAB: it will go to the next cell on
> the same row, or to the first cell on the next row if you are at the
> last cell in a row.
> 

... and S-TAB to move in the other direction.

Nick

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* Re: calculation question
  2011-07-19  8:13     ` Bastien
@ 2011-07-23 16:51       ` Michael Brand
  2011-07-27 15:48         ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Michael Brand @ 2011-07-23 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bart Bunting, Jude DaShiell; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

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Hi Jude and Bart

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:13, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Bart Bunting <bart@bunting.net.au> writes:
>> I have noticed that emacspeak does not read anything done using
>> overlays.  I am presuming the column and row labels are done this way.
>
> Yes, the references are displayed as an overlay.

As an alternative to overlays used by "C-c }" on a table to display
the coordinate grid, I would suggest the attached patch that displays
the coordinates in the table editor "C-c `" like this:

#+begin_src org
#
# Edit field @2$3 and finish with C-c C-c
#
123
#+end_src

It also supports the org-table-follow-field-mode "C-u C-u C-c `" added
by Carsten two months ago:
http://orgmode.org/w/org-mode.git/commitdiff/bffdfeb7fcd6c094d44e754ace7ce28fab81f2ff

Michael

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From a79c95bdfd09fff0d62fae41d7421ca9d77ea13e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Michael Brand <michael.ch.brand@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:48:52 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Table editor: Display coordinates of current field

* lisp/org-table.el (org-table-edit-field): Display field coordinates.
---
 lisp/org-table.el |    8 +++++++-
 1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org-table.el b/lisp/org-table.el
index c7d0b72..e392d11 100644
--- a/lisp/org-table.el
+++ b/lisp/org-table.el
@@ -1806,6 +1806,12 @@ it can be edited in place."
 	  (font-lock-fontify-block))))
    (t
     (let ((pos (move-marker (make-marker) (point)))
+	  (coord
+	   (if (eq org-table-use-standard-references t)
+	       (concat (org-number-to-letters (org-table-current-column))
+		       (int-to-string (org-table-current-dline)))
+	     (concat "@" (int-to-string (org-table-current-dline))
+		     "$" (int-to-string (org-table-current-column)))))
 	  (field (org-table-get-field))
 	  (cw (current-window-configuration))
 	  p)
@@ -1815,7 +1821,7 @@ it can be edited in place."
 		 (markerp org-field-marker))
 	(move-marker org-field-marker nil))
       (erase-buffer)
-      (insert "#\n# Edit field and finish with C-c C-c\n#\n")
+      (insert "#\n# Edit field " coord " and finish with C-c C-c\n#\n")
       (let ((org-inhibit-startup t)) (org-mode))
       (auto-fill-mode -1)
       (setq truncate-lines nil)
-- 
1.7.4.2


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* Re: calculation question
  2011-07-23 16:51       ` Michael Brand
@ 2011-07-27 15:48         ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-07-27 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Brand; +Cc: Jude DaShiell, emacs-orgmode

Hi Michael,

Michael Brand <michael.ch.brand@gmail.com> writes:

> As an alternative to overlays used by "C-c }" on a table to display
> the coordinate grid, I would suggest the attached patch that displays
> the coordinates in the table editor "C-c `" like this:
>
> #+begin_src org
> #
> # Edit field @2$3 and finish with C-c C-c
> #
> 123
> #+end_src

This is a neat addition, it enhances accessibility.

I've now applied this patch.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien

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2011-07-18 23:10 ` Bastien
2011-07-18 23:47   ` Bart Bunting
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2011-07-23 16:51       ` Michael Brand
2011-07-27 15:48         ` Bastien
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