From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Hannon Subject: Re: Difficulty of using Org mode Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 00:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1338795999.46507.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1338675698.75401.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <87k3znsi7p.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Michael Hannon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51731) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SbS00-0006Do-SI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:46:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SbRzu-00053k-61 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:46:48 -0400 Received: from nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.212.183]:25106) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SbRzt-00053M-U7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:46:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k3znsi7p.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien Cc: Org-Mode List Bastien wrote:=0A=0A>Michael Hannon wri= tes:=0A>=0A>> Hi, folks.=A0 Just FYI:=0A>>=0A>> ----- Forwarded Message ---= --=0A>>>From: Yihui Xie =0A>>>To: Stephen Eglen =0A>>>Cc: ESS-help@r-project.org=0A>>>Sent: Saturday, June = 2, 2012 3:08 PM=0A>>>Subject: Re: [ESS] knitr=0A>>>=0A>>>There is no point = comparing markdown with org mode, and the answer=0A>>>will be definitely th= is: org mode can beat markdown almost everywhere;=0A>>>they are not even co= mparable. The point is that markdown was not=0A>>>designed to provide new f= eatures; it was designed to be simple so it=0A>>>intentionally discarded lo= ts of features and people can learn it=0A>>>quickly. I have tried a few tim= es to learn org mode, and it is just=0A>>>too complicated for me.=0A>=0A> W= ell, it all boils down to disambiguate what "learning Org" means.=0A>=0A=0A= > It is hard to say just from the message above.=A0 If you can, please redi= rect=0A> the OP to this list so that he feels guided in tasks he wants to d= o with=0A> Org.=0A=0AHi, Bastien.=A0 I don't know this guy, but I don't thi= nk he's *trying* to learn=0AOrg mode at this point.=A0 He seems to be a ver= y capable guy:=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0 http://yihui.name/=0A=0Aand is evidently the = author of the R package "knitr" for literate programming.=0A=0AI was just s= truck by the fact that a person of his evident ability would give=0Aup on O= rg mode.=A0 I can't say it has been all that easy for me to use Org mode,= =0Aand I'm sure there are Avogadro's number of things I still don't know ab= out=0Ait, but I've never viewed it is being *that* difficult.=A0 Probably I= 've been=0Aspoiled by all the help I've gotten from this enormously useful = list.=0A=0AThere's no real action item for anybody here.=A0 I speculate tha= t this guy might=0Ajust have had more fun writing his own package than in l= earning somebody=0Aelse's.=A0 But I don't see how it could hurt for the Org= -mode community to keep=0Aan eye out for usability issues.=0A=0A-- Mike