From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Keith Gunderson Subject: a turn-key org-mode for newbies? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1334762814.49711.YahooMailNeo@web34505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Reply-To: Keith Gunderson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="2040205630-155888905-1334762814=:49711" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53862) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKWme-0004QM-CU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:27:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKWmX-0002FQ-Sf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:27:03 -0400 Received: from nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.210]:27403) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKWmX-0002FB-GW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:26:57 -0400 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --2040205630-155888905-1334762814=:49711 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a package or download that can allow a new non-emacs user to immed= iately engage with org-mode?=A0 That is, install and configure both emacs a= nd org-mode plus make some guesses about how a new user would initially wan= t to use org-mode.=A0 =0A=0A=0AI am not an emacs newbie, so I can spearhead= an effort if necessary. Though I am eagerly working to rid myself of org-m= ode newbie status.=0A=0AI have some relatives that could really benefit fro= m org-mode... who doesn't?=0A=0A=0AHere's some of what I'm thinking:=0A=0A*= Installation=0A** Emacs=0A** Packages=0A*** org-mode=0A* Configuration=0A*= * Load path=0A** org file directory and basic files established=0A*** journ= al.org=0A*** projects.org=0A*** notes.org=0A*** personal.org=0A** CUA=0A* E= xtras=0A** Easy buffer switching via keyboard=0A** shortcuts for spreadshee= t copy/pasting=0A=0AThanks Carsten and fellow org-moders,=0AKeith --2040205630-155888905-1334762814=:49711 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is there a packa= ge or download that can allow a new non-emacs user to immediately engage wi= th org-mode? That is, install and configure both emacs and org-mode p= lus make some guesses about how a new user would initially want to use org-= mode.

I am not an emacs newbie, so I ca= n spearhead an effort if necessary. Though I am eagerly working to rid myse= lf of org-mode newbie status.

I have some relative= s that could really benefit from org-mode... who doesn't?

Here's some of what I'm thinking:

* In= stallation
** Emacs
** Packages
*** org-mode
* Configuration** Load path
** org file directory and basic files established

*** journal.org
*** projects.org
*** notes.org
*** personal.org
** CUA
* Extras
** Easy buffer switching via keyboar= d
** shortcuts for spreadsheet copy/pasting

Tha= nks Carsten and fellow org-moders,

Keith

--2040205630-155888905-1334762814=:49711-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Schulte Subject: Re: a turn-key org-mode for newbies? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:15:48 -0400 Message-ID: <87fwc19ld7.fsf@gmx.com> References: <1334762814.49711.YahooMailNeo@web34505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37811) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKXY2-0000Xx-IQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:16:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKXXx-0003Jx-A3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:16:02 -0400 Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com ([74.208.5.67]:50262) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKXXx-0003JZ-3g for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:15:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1334762814.49711.YahooMailNeo@web34505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (Keith Gunderson's message of "Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:26:54 -0700 (PDT)") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Keith Gunderson Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Keith Gunderson writes: > Is there a package or download that can allow a new non-emacs user to > immediately engage with org-mode?=C2=A0 That is, install and configure bo= th > emacs and org-mode plus make some guesses about how a new user would > initially want to use org-mode.=C2=A0 > > > I am not an emacs newbie, so I can spearhead an effort if > necessary. Though I am eagerly working to rid myself of org-mode > newbie status. > > I have some relatives that could really benefit from org-mode... who does= n't? > > > Here's some of what I'm thinking: > > * Installation > ** Emacs > ** Packages > *** org-mode > * Configuration > ** Load path > ** org file directory and basic files established > *** journal.org > *** projects.org > *** notes.org > *** personal.org > ** CUA > * Extras > ** Easy buffer switching via keyboard > ** shortcuts for spreadsheet copy/pasting > > Thanks Carsten and fellow org-moders, > Keith An emacs-wide pre-made config system which could be relevant is my fork of the Emacs starter kit [1] which is build entirely using Emacs Lisp configuration embedded in Org-mode files. This does have a minimal pre-built Org-mode setup [2]. Perhaps the Org-mode specific portion of this starter kit could be expanded into what you're after (even using your outline above directly). Note that this requires Emacs24 to work "out of the box". Although, a simpler system based off a single Org-mode file may be preferable. Note that after the impending release of Emacs24 it will be possible to place both the Emacs Lisp and the prose documentation of such a tool in a single Org-mode file which should simplify distribution and maintenance of such a system. Best, Footnotes:=20 [1] http://eschulte.github.com/emacs24-starter-kit/ [2] http://eschulte.github.com/emacs24-starter-kit/starter-kit-org.html --=20 Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: a turn-key org-mode for newbies? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:12:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87r4vitulj.fsf@altern.org> References: <1334762814.49711.YahooMailNeo@web34505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <87fwc19ld7.fsf@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60591) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLDcw-0008Rl-N9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:12:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLDco-0003tn-7q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:11:54 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:42742) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLDcn-0003tN-VH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:11:46 -0400 Received: by werj55 with SMTP id j55so7870345wer.0 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 06:11:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fwc19ld7.fsf@gmx.com> (Eric Schulte's message of "Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:15:48 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Eric Schulte Cc: Keith Gunderson , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Eric Schulte writes: > Although, a simpler system based off a single Org-mode file may be > preferable. Agreed. I long dreamed of an Org tutorial written with elisp source blocks, demonstrating the use of various options incrementally? Any taker? -- Bastien From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Keith Gunderson Subject: Re: a turn-key org-mode for newbies? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1334933874.31151.YahooMailNeo@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1334762814.49711.YahooMailNeo@web34505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <87fwc19ld7.fsf@gmx.com> <87r4vitulj.fsf@altern.org> Reply-To: Keith Gunderson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="239886227-753267278-1334933874=:31151" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52593) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLFHg-0001XD-CW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:58:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLFHa-0000XN-0K for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:58:03 -0400 Received: from nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.97]:22887) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLFHZ-0000VH-Lx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:57:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87r4vitulj.fsf@altern.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --239886227-753267278-1334933874=:31151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would love to do whatever I can.=A0 I'm more than happy to collect input = ideas and make attempts at implementation.=A0 Please feel free to shoot you= r ideas/advice to the list and I'll collect them.=A0 I'd hope to have somet= hing concrete to add or review early next week.=0A=0ABTW, I'm currently hip= -deep in an emacs24 upgrade and emacs24-starter-kit rollout.=A0 I'd expect = to be using gnus through my gmail account in the near future.=A0 (Exciting = stuff...=A0 no more top-posting!)=0A=0AKeith=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A>_______________= _________________=0A> From: Bastien =0A>To: Eric Schulte =0A>Cc: Keith Gunderson ; "emacs-orgm= ode@gnu.org" =0A>Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 8:12 = AM=0A>Subject: Re: [O] a turn-key org-mode for newbies?=0A> =0A>Eric Schult= e writes:=0A>=0A>> Although, a simpler system based = off a single Org-mode file may be=0A>> preferable.=0A>=0A>Agreed.=A0 I long= dreamed of an Org tutorial written with elisp source=0A>blocks, demonstrat= ing the use of various options incrementally?=0A>=0A>Any taker?=0A>=0A>-- = =0A>Bastien=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> --239886227-753267278-1334933874=:31151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would lo= ve to do whatever I can. I'm more than happy to collect input ideas a= nd make attempts at implementation. Please feel free to shoot your id= eas/advice to the list and I'll collect them. I'd hope to have someth= ing concrete to add or review early next week.

<= /span>

BTW, I'm currently hip-deep in an emacs24 upgrade an= d emacs24-starter-kit rollout. I'd expect to be using gnus through my= gmail account in the near future. (Exciting stuff... no more t= op-posting!)

Keith

From: Bastien= <bzg@altern.org>
To: Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com>
Cc: Keith Gunderson <krgkg@yahoo.com>; "ema= cs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [O] a turn-key org= -mode for newbies?

=0AEric Schulte <eric.sch= ulte@gmx.com> writes:

> Although, a simpler system based o= ff a single Org-mode file may be
> preferable.

Agreed. I= long dreamed of an Org tutorial written with elisp source
blocks, demon= strating the use of various options incrementally?

Any taker?
--
Bastien

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