From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alan L Tyree Subject: Re: Bibliographic references Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:31:28 +1100 Message-ID: <1324089088.3426.3@windy> References: <1324071794.3325.1@windy> <9276.1324076905@alphaville.americas.hpqcorp.net> <1324082553.3426.1@windy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34890) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbk3d-0004kS-AS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:31:30 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbk3b-0005mJ-R7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:31:29 -0500 Received: from mail-yx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.213.169]:35920) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbk3b-0005mF-Ob for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:31:27 -0500 Received: by yenq10 with SMTP id q10so3262790yen.0 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:31:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (from tsd@tsdye.com on Sat Dec 17 12:21:42 2011) Content-Disposition: inline List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "Thomas S. Dye" Cc: nicholas.dokos@hp.com, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 17/12/11 12:21:42, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > Alan L Tyree writes: >=20 > > On 17/12/11 11:25:36, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > >> Nick Dokos writes: > >>=20 > >> > Thomas S. Dye wrote: > >> > > >> >> Of course, this just handles the in-text part for formats other > >> than > >> >> LaTeX. LaTeX uses bibtex or biblatex to compile the list of > >> >> references. I don't know how to accomplish this in ODT. For=20 > >> html, > >> I > >> >> export from Org-mode to LaTeX, then use tex4ht to convert to > html.=20 > >> This > >> >> leverages the bibtex capabilities and yields nicely formatted > >> >> bibliographies in html. > >> >>=20 > >> > > >> > If libreoffice can import HTML, maybe the tex4ht way can work=20 > for > >> ODT as > >> > well? > >> > > >> > Nick > >> > > >>=20 > >> Hi Nick, > >>=20 > >> Good catch. In principle, yes, though I've never worked with > >> libreoffice. We follow a similar path to produce Word versions of=20 > >> our > >> documents when clients require them: Org -> LaTeX -> tex4ht ->=20 > html > - > >> > > >> Word -> Save As -> lots of tidying by hand. It works, but it=20 > isn't > a > >> pretty process with our setup. I'm sure folks on this list could > do > >> better, though. > >>=20 > >> tex4ht has some switches that help it produce output suited for > this > >> path. It was designed to be configured very extensively. > >>=20 > >> What I meant earlier (but didn't express well) was that I didn't > know > >> if > >> it was possible to generate bibliographies from keys in the ODT > >> environment. I'm guessing there must be a way to do this > (Endnote?, > >> Zotero?), but I haven't looked into it. > > > > Even though my original question was a bit ambiguous, what I meant > was=20 > > generating the bibliography from keys. One org input file, output=20 > to >=20 > > all formats does the right thing. > > > > oolatex produces reasonably good OO output, including bibliography, > so=20 > > the org -> LaTeX -> oolatex sequence would work, but, again, seems=20 > > clumsy. Particularly since Jambunathan's ODT export looks so good. > > > > Alan > > > >>=20 > >> Tom > >>=20 > >> --=20 > >> Thomas S. Dye > >> http://www.tsdye.com > >>=20 > Aloha Alan, >=20 > It would probably be fairly easy to add a variable such as > org-latex-to-oo-process patterned after org-latex-to-pdf-process and > then export to oo through oolatex directly from org-mode. That might > get rid of the clumsiness you're experiencing. >=20 > I'm still curious how one generates a bibliography from keys in the > ODT > world, or if it is possible. =20 Er, yeah, G'day Thomas :-), I'm actually more interested in XHTML output since my main interest is=20 in generating ePub books.=20 Org exports nicer html than LyX, but LyX's ability to deal directly=20 with bibtex keys when exporting to html is very nice. It means that=20 there is a one stop shop for print and eBooks. But I would much rather=20 work in emacs and org. Cheers, Alan =20 >=20 > All the best, > Tom >=20 > --=20 > Thomas S. Dye > http://www.tsdye.com >=20 --=20 Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 sip:172385@iptel.org