Re: Bibliographic references

[Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com>]

On 17/12/11 12:21:42, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On 17/12/11 11:25:36, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> >> Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Of course, this just handles the in-text part for formats other
> >> than
> >> >> LaTeX.  LaTeX uses bibtex or biblatex to compile the list of
> >> >> references.  I don't know how to accomplish this in ODT.  For 
> >> html,
> >> I
> >> >> export from Org-mode to LaTeX, then use tex4ht to convert to
> html. 
> >> This
> >> >> leverages the bibtex capabilities and yields nicely formatted
> >> >> bibliographies in html.
> >> >> 
> >> >
> >> > If libreoffice can import HTML, maybe the tex4ht way can work 
> for
> >> ODT as
> >> > well?
> >> >
> >> > Nick
> >> >
> >> 
> >> Hi Nick,
> >> 
> >> Good catch.  In principle, yes, though I've never worked with
> >> libreoffice.  We follow a similar path to produce Word versions of 
> >> our
> >> documents when clients require them: Org -> LaTeX -> tex4ht -> 
> html
> -
> >> >
> >> Word -> Save As -> lots of tidying by hand.  It works, but it 
> isn't
> a
> >> pretty process with our setup.  I'm sure folks on this list could
> do
> >> better, though.
> >> 
> >> tex4ht has some switches that help it produce output suited for
> this
> >> path.  It was designed to be configured very extensively.
> >> 
> >> What I meant earlier (but didn't express well) was that I didn't
> know
> >> if
> >> it was possible to generate bibliographies from keys in the ODT
> >> environment.  I'm guessing there must be a way to do this
> (Endnote?,
> >> Zotero?), but I haven't looked into it.
> >
> > Even though my original question was a bit ambiguous, what I meant
> was 
> > generating the bibliography from keys. One org input file, output 
> to
> 
> > all formats does the right thing.
> >
> > oolatex produces reasonably good OO output, including bibliography,
> so 
> > the org -> LaTeX -> oolatex sequence would work, but, again, seems 
> > clumsy. Particularly since Jambunathan's ODT export looks so good.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >> 
> >> Tom
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Thomas S. Dye
> >> http://www.tsdye.com
> >> 
> Aloha Alan,
> 
> It would probably be fairly easy to add a variable such as
> org-latex-to-oo-process patterned after org-latex-to-pdf-process and
> then export to oo through oolatex directly from org-mode.  That might
> get rid of the clumsiness you're experiencing.
> 
> I'm still curious how one generates a bibliography from keys in the
> ODT
> world, or if it is possible.   

Er, yeah, G'day Thomas :-),

I'm actually more interested in XHTML output since my main interest is 
in generating ePub books. 

Org exports nicer html than LyX, but LyX's ability to deal directly 
with bibtex keys when exporting to html is very nice. It means that 
there is a one stop shop for print and eBooks. But I would much rather 
work in emacs and org.

Cheers,
Alan
 
> 
> All the best,
> Tom
> 
> -- 
> Thomas S. Dye
> http://www.tsdye.com
> 



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