jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

[uselpa]

Hello all,

I've been using org mode for several months now on my Mac without problems. Since most of what I do is for work I've tried using it on our company Windows 7 machines, using the official GNU Emacs 25.1 
for Windows. Unfortunately, I've had a nagging issue both with the september and the november version:

When I jump from the Agenda-Timeline view to the source .org file, either with TAB, SPACE or by using the follow mode, Emacs will position me exactly *below* the source line in the org file (where the 
scheduled date is). On macOS or Linux this does not happen, the cursor is on the task description. I've tried to work with different line endings on Windows to no avail.  Also, my org file and my Emacs config 
are minimal and identical between macOS and Windows.

Is there a configuration setting I could change? Or is this a packaging issue with GNU Emacs?

Regards,
pu

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jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

[uselpa]

Hello all,

I've been using org mode for several months now on my Mac without problems. Since most of what I do is for work I've tried using it on our company Windows 7 machines, using the official GNU Emacs 25.1 
for Windows. Unfortunately, I've had a nagging issue both with the september and the november version:

When I jump from the Agenda-Timeline view to the source .org file, either with TAB, SPACE or by using the follow mode, Emacs will position me exactly *below* the source line in the org file (where the 
scheduled date is). On macOS or Linux this does not happen, the cursor is on the task description. I've tried to work with different line endings on Windows to no avail.  Also, my org file and my Emacs config 
are minimal and identical between macOS and Windows.

Is there a configuration setting I could change? Or is this a packaging issue with GNU Emacs?

Regards,
pu

(Please cc: me since I am not subscribed to the list)

Re: jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

uselpa@internet.lu writes:

> I've been using org mode for several months now on my Mac without
> problems. Since most of what I do is for work I've tried using it on
> our company Windows 7 machines, using the official GNU Emacs 25.1
> for Windows. Unfortunately, I've had a nagging issue both with the september and the november version:
>
> When I jump from the Agenda-Timeline view to the source .org file,

FWIW, Timeline feature was removed in Org 9.1.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

[Alan Schmitt]

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Hello,

On 2017-03-01 13:28, uselpa@internet.lu writes:

> When I jump from the Agenda-Timeline view to the source .org file,
> either with TAB, SPACE or by using the follow mode, Emacs will
> position me exactly *below* the source line in the org file (where the
> scheduled date is). On macOS or Linux this does not happen, the cursor
> is on the task description. I've tried to work with different line
> endings on Windows to no avail. Also, my org file and my Emacs config
> are minimal and identical between macOS and Windows.

I'm on macOS, and when I jump using <tab> I get to the headline.
However, when I jump using <enter> I end up on the SCHEDULED or DEADLINE
line.

I would also like to always end up on the headline.

Best,

Alan

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Re: jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Alan Schmitt <alan.schmitt@polytechnique.org> writes:

> Hello,
>
> On 2017-03-01 13:28, uselpa@internet.lu writes:
>
>> When I jump from the Agenda-Timeline view to the source .org file,
>> either with TAB, SPACE or by using the follow mode, Emacs will
>> position me exactly *below* the source line in the org file (where the
>> scheduled date is). On macOS or Linux this does not happen, the cursor
>> is on the task description. I've tried to work with different line
>> endings on Windows to no avail. Also, my org file and my Emacs config
>> are minimal and identical between macOS and Windows.
>
> I'm on macOS, and when I jump using <tab> I get to the headline.
> However, when I jump using <enter> I end up on the SCHEDULED or DEADLINE
> line.
>
> I would also like to always end up on the headline.

TAB and RET are bound to two different functions. Since both behaviours
may be useful, I don't see any incentive to "fix" anything. You could
bind RET to `org-agenda-goto', or is there anything I am missing?

Regards,

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Re: jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

[Alan Schmitt]

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On 2017-03-08 12:02, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Alan Schmitt <alan.schmitt@polytechnique.org> writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On 2017-03-01 13:28, uselpa@internet.lu writes:
>>
>>> When I jump from the Agenda-Timeline view to the source .org file,
>>> either with TAB, SPACE or by using the follow mode, Emacs will
>>> position me exactly *below* the source line in the org file (where the
>>> scheduled date is). On macOS or Linux this does not happen, the cursor
>>> is on the task description. I've tried to work with different line
>>> endings on Windows to no avail. Also, my org file and my Emacs config
>>> are minimal and identical between macOS and Windows.
>>
>> I'm on macOS, and when I jump using <tab> I get to the headline.
>> However, when I jump using <enter> I end up on the SCHEDULED or DEADLINE
>> line.
>>
>> I would also like to always end up on the headline.
>
> TAB and RET are bound to two different functions. Since both behaviours
> may be useful, I don't see any incentive to "fix" anything. You could
> bind RET to `org-agenda-goto', or is there anything I am missing?

I would like to use `org-agenda-goto', but without splitting the frame.
In other words, I want to destination to be the one of
`org-agenda-goto', but the window handling to be the one of
`org-agenda-switch-to'.

Best,

Alan

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Re: jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

[Samuel Wales]

tangentially, jumping to org from agenda almost always or always puts
a pointless ellipsis at the top of the window for me.

in case it's relevant to tangential changes.

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Re: jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

[Eric S Fraga]

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On Wednesday,  8 Mar 2017 at 12:55, Alan Schmitt wrote:

[...]

> I would like to use `org-agenda-goto', but without splitting the frame.
> In other words, I want to destination to be the one of
> `org-agenda-goto', but the window handling to be the one of
> `org-agenda-switch-to'.

You could "advice" (advise in English :-) org-agenda-goto to delete other
windows after invocation?

Or, create a new function which invokes org-agenda-goto and then
delete-other-windows and bind that to the key you want?

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Re: jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

[Alan Schmitt]

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Hello Eric,

On 2017-03-09 07:23, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> On Wednesday,  8 Mar 2017 at 12:55, Alan Schmitt wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> I would like to use `org-agenda-goto', but without splitting the frame.
>> In other words, I want to destination to be the one of
>> `org-agenda-goto', but the window handling to be the one of
>> `org-agenda-switch-to'.
>
> You could "advice" (advise in English :-) org-agenda-goto to delete other
> windows after invocation?
>
> Or, create a new function which invokes org-agenda-goto and then
> delete-other-windows and bind that to the key you want?

Yes, these are solutions. I was just trying to understand why the
functions had different behaviors.

Thanks,

Alan

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Re: jumping from Agenda/Timeline to .org source file

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Alan Schmitt <alan.schmitt@polytechnique.org> writes:

> Hello Eric,
>
> On 2017-03-09 07:23, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> On Wednesday,  8 Mar 2017 at 12:55, Alan Schmitt wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> I would like to use `org-agenda-goto', but without splitting the frame.
>>> In other words, I want to destination to be the one of
>>> `org-agenda-goto', but the window handling to be the one of
>>> `org-agenda-switch-to'.
>>
>> You could "advice" (advise in English :-) org-agenda-goto to delete other
>> windows after invocation?
>>
>> Or, create a new function which invokes org-agenda-goto and then
>> delete-other-windows and bind that to the key you want?
>
> Yes, these are solutions. I was just trying to understand why the
> functions had different behaviors.

I tried the same, without much success.

I think we could factor out both functions into a single one with
a control argument. 

Any taker?


Regards,

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Nicolas Goaziou