From: Greg Minshall <minshall@umich.edu>
To: Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the standardization of Org
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2020 17:22:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1187707.1604326959@apollo2.minshall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 02 Nov 2020 12:39:36 +0000." <87zh40aq5z.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>
Eric,
i was thinking of replying to your earlier post on the power of emacs.
now i guess i'll ask my question or make my vague point or whatever.
i wonder if it's possible (ignoring the possible utiltiy) to divide org
mode into two (maybe three?) things.
first is "org mode as a document structuring [hierarchy, tables, lists]
and markup [links, ??? -- maybe it's all part of "document structure"]
technique.
(versus, possible "third": agenda, task manager. [that i'm not all that
familiar with.])
versus org mode as a computing environment (== "org mode as life", which
is to a large extent true for me, as well).
the border between these divisions is, of necessity (i suspect) fairly
fluid.
but, i wonder if one could draw a useful boundary at "babel execute".
i.e., on one side, one is definitely in "computing environment".
(and, in my notes on your earlier e-mail: "what about calc, used in
table formulae?". which you also mention.)
i'm neutral on the issue of standardization (though i agree with Daniele
Nicolodi that standardization might not bring what everyone wants). i
will note that for many years the C language was not a formal
"standard", but people figured out how to write "portable" code that
worked with the major compilers and runtime environments. (it's nicer
today that, e.g., C is an international standard, but that wasn't the
first step towards "interoperability".)
my bias is i'd love to see "everybody" able to export *and* tangle an
org document, possibly within a limited subset, such as those that don't
require babel-execute for that purpose.
cheers, Greg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-02 14:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-01 0:22 Thoughts on the standardization of Org Asa Zeren
2020-11-01 0:40 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-01 3:08 ` Asa Zeren
2020-11-01 4:23 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-11-01 7:54 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-01 2:28 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-01 3:39 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-11-02 12:39 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-11-02 14:22 ` Greg Minshall [this message]
2020-11-02 14:56 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-11-02 15:23 ` Russell Adams
2020-11-02 15:31 ` TEC
2020-11-02 15:48 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-11-02 16:27 ` Carsten Dominik
2020-11-02 22:05 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-03 3:29 ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-01 5:20 ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-01 10:25 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-01 10:28 ` TEC
2020-11-01 18:02 ` Jack Kamm
2020-11-01 16:03 ` Asa Zeren
2020-11-01 17:27 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-01 17:29 ` TEC
2020-11-01 18:43 ` Asa Zeren
2020-11-01 6:24 ` TEC
2020-11-01 16:13 ` Russell Adams
2020-11-01 19:46 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-11-01 23:10 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-02 8:37 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-11-02 9:02 ` TEC
2020-11-02 11:04 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-11-02 13:43 ` TEC
2020-11-07 21:20 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-09 14:04 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-09 15:57 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-11-09 15:59 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 16:19 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-10 20:22 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 23:08 ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-11 0:00 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-09 21:46 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-09 22:45 ` Emails are not safe - " Jean Louis
2020-11-10 4:13 ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-10 4:49 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-10 7:12 ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-10 16:29 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-10 20:35 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 22:30 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-11 5:03 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11 6:40 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-27 16:49 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-27 17:16 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-11 17:10 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-11 17:34 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-12 3:39 ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-11 3:49 ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-02 9:53 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-02 1:17 ` Ken Mankoff
2020-11-02 8:12 ` Russell Adams
2020-11-02 9:57 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-03 8:24 ` David Rogers
2020-11-03 12:14 ` Ken Mankoff
2020-11-03 12:27 ` Russell Adams
2020-11-03 13:00 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-11-03 13:31 ` Ken Mankoff
2020-11-03 15:03 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-11-03 20:27 ` TEC
2020-11-03 14:38 ` Devin Prater
2020-11-03 22:03 ` David Rogers
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-11-01 13:34 Gustav Wikström
2020-11-01 18:39 Asa Zeren
2020-11-03 22:30 Asa Zeren
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