From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nick Dokos Subject: Re: can't see emphasized text in org Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:50:27 -0400 Message-ID: <11440.1251327027@alphaville.usa.hp.com> References: <20090823183402.GB20401@dg> <4A918D71.4030809@nickbell.org> <20090823211052.GB8346@dg> <28056.1251066657@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org> <20090826212022.GA8214@dg> Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MgRLO-00084o-GH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:51:54 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MgRLK-00080K-Vg for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:51:54 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54231 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MgRLK-00080H-No for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:51:50 -0400 Received: from g5t0006.atlanta.hp.com ([15.192.0.43]:36829) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MgRLK-0004lM-8G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:51:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:20:22 PDT." <20090826212022.GA8214@dg> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: danielgoldin@gmail.com Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org I have the feeling that I am personally responsible for spamming the emacs bug list. I made the mistake of cc'ing my original reply to that list, so I suspect that everybody who replied to my original email (including Daniel below) ended up creating another bogus bug report on that list (maybe the list manager is smart enough to recognize that they are all follow-ups to the original bug report and has tacked them on to that - that's my hope but I haven't had the courage to check yet.) I apologize for the stupidity and promise never to do it again, but I beg you: if you feel like replying to anything on this thread, *please* edit the CC list and delete bug-gnu-emacs from it. Having had my fill of crow, I remain Humble-pied-ly yours, Nick Daniel Goldin wrote: > Finally got a chance to try this. Works like a charm! Thanks. > > d. > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Nick Dokos wrote: > > >Daniel Goldin wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Nick Bell wrote: > >> > >> > Daniel Goldin wrote: > >> >> Non-programmer-type can't see markup like /this/ as emphasized. I > >> >> looked through manual and searched web but found no answer. Any > >> >> thoughts? > >> > Are you using a font which has a separate italic form? Try switching > >> > to a font which you know does, such as Courier New. > >> > > >> > Now wait for an expert to come along. > >> > > >> Doesn't help, I'm afraid. > >> > > > >I've seen this problem before and I never chased it down but when I saw > >Nick Bell's idea, I figured that's got to be it. It *almost* works > >but not quite (as Daniel found out). > > > >If you enter /italic/ in an org buffer, place your cursor in there and > >say M-x describe-text-properties, you get: > > > >,---- > >| Text content at position 48: > > | | | There are text properties here: > >| face (italic) > >| font-lock-multiline t > >| fontified t > >`---- > > > >You can then M-x describe-face italic . For me, that had > >the :underline attribute set, and the :slant attribute unset. > >If you customize the face, set the :slant attribute (e.g. to italic) > >and unset the :underline attribute and *then* change to a font that > >provides an italic form, then /italic/ is indeed italicized. > > > >The problem seems to be in faces.el: > > > >,---- > >| (defface italic > >| '((((supports :slant italic)) > >| :slant italic) > >| (((supports :underline t)) > >| :underline t) > >| (t > >| ;; default to italic, even it doesn't appear to be supported, > >| ;; because in some cases the display engine will do it's own > >| ;; workaround (to `dim' on ttys) > >| :slant italic)) > >| "Basic italic face." > >| :group 'basic-faces) > >`---- > > > >which apparently looked at my default font[1], found that it does not > >support italics but does support underlines and set the attributes > >accordingly. *Why* it falls back to underlining is probably a question > >that should be addressed to the emacs developers, but it looks like > >a bug to me (hence copied to the emacs bugs list - version info appended[2]) > > > >HTH, > >Nick > > > >[1] I have > > > >(set-default-font "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1") > > > >in my .emacs. I think this is what used to be called "9x15" at some point in > >the past, but I'm really not sure. > > > > > >[2] Version info: > > > >GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) of 2009-08-09 on gamaville.dokosmarshall.org > >Org-mode version 6.29trans (release_6.29c.55.ga48f) > > -- > Daniel Goldin 213.926.1960 >