From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: make error when making org fro git Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:14:23 +0200 Message-ID: <09B990DD-6039-433B-AD7B-7E737D88C4FC@science.uva.nl> References: <061B7748-4C42-485F-AFBB-08E748A7FCCF@science.uva.nl> <4800DFF5.7090901@diplan.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkkFC-000078-PL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:14:30 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkkFB-00006U-TG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:14:30 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkkFB-00006R-QR for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:14:29 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkkFB-00041P-FY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:14:29 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so135676ugf.48 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:14:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4800DFF5.7090901@diplan.de> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Rainer Stengele Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Apr 12, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: > yes, that made it work. > I did not choose to use emacs 21 - it is debian 4 default version. > > Actually I misused my debain system to try to get a "make" for my > windows xp where I cannot get anything to work natively from git. > Doing a "make autoloads" I try to use the lisp directory under > windows. > Hope that will work. That should work. > > > With the old org "system" I could simply use the lisp files as given > but with the new structure I have to create the org-install.el file > which is not working under windows. Well, this is not fully correct. First of all, by the "old" system, I guess you mean the distribution files in the form of zip or tar archives? These will still contain the org-install.el file and in this way this is not changed at all from the old system. The git repo is the bleeding edge development version. For technical reasons I cannot distribute a derived file like org-install.el with this repository. And to fully use the git repo you will indeed need a system that can run a few basic development tools, like make - not asking too much in my opinion. We have not had a release now for a while because the splitting operation is a major undertaking. Once that is done, I will have more regular releases again, and then you can use the release files to stay close to the development version. Furthermore, I do have a plan B for using the git repo, and that is simply doing (require 'org) instead of (require org-install). This is not the preferred method because it does load the rather large Org system into Emacs each time you start emacs. The preferred method is to use (require 'org-install) for a distribution, and *nothing* when Org is distributed with Emacs, because there it is fully autoloaded. However, there are enough people who have never read the installation instructions close enough to know that in a downloaed version (require org-install) is the correct method to activate Org. Also, unfortunately, the excellent tutorial by David O'Toole, for many people the entry gate into Org, explains to use (require 'org). Therefore I am trying to set things up in a way that also this will work. If it does not, you can report this as a bug and I will fix it. - Carsten