From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Leha Subject: Re: Citation syntax: a revised proposal Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:27:18 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87k2zjnc0e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87ioezooi2.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87mw4bpaiu.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <8761aznpiq.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87twyjnh0r.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87oaopx24e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87k2zd4f3w.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87egpkv8g9.fsf@berkeley.edu> <877fv6xfaq.fsf@gmail.com> <87twya2ak0.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87zj81aa97.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87ioep2r6p.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87y4ngbgm7.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bnkbi61v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a8zlmujp.fsf@gmail.com> <87ioe8yftp.fsf@berkeley.edu> <871tkwmh87.fsf@gmail.com> <87sidb8mm7.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87lhj07ol0.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87y4mw19yj.fsf@berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39611) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YXnlh-0004CQ-6G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 05:26:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YXnlc-0004MS-8v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 05:26:33 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:35922) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YXnlc-0004M8-2t for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 05:26:28 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YXnlY-0007dF-UX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:26:25 +0100 Received: from 193.63.221.48 ([193.63.221.48]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:26:24 +0100 Received: from andreas.leha by 193.63.221.48 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:26:24 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi all, Richard Lawrence writes: > Hi Aaron and all, > > Richard Lawrence writes: > >> I'll take some time this weekend to see if I can wire this together with >> the Elisp Aaron wrote for the Org exporter side. > > I've had some success with this. I would not say that my efforts are > complete yet, but I thought I should send an update to let everyone > know. I've published a branch here: > > https://github.com/wyleyr/org-mode > > which derives from Aaron's wip-cite-awe branch. Basically, what I've > been able to do so far is process citations in a document via > org-citeproc, using a bibtex database file, then insert the processed > citations and bibliography in the document during export. (In theory, > this should work with org-bibtex too, though I think I may have > introduced a bug...the library is not producing well-formed bibtex from > org-bibtex entries for me at the moment.) It works pretty slick, at > least for the simple cases I've tested. > [ ... ] I have been following this thread from (quite) some distance as I am very interested in more general citation support from orgmode. Please allow some basic questions: 1. For the LaTeX user This change means that the LaTeX user can use org syntax for citations rather than bare LaTeX (or links of some sort)? And this org syntax could then (I guess is the future) be extended with additional link-like functionality (maybe similar to org-ref)? 2. The non-LaTeX exports These are all treated the same and will contain just text, that is produced to mimic LaTeX's output to some extent? I think I read some question about e.g. having zotero handling the citations in the odt export. Are there plans for such thing? 3. The database As I understand the database currently is either bibtex or org? But that list could in principle be extended to zotero ... ? And any other database X (zotero ...) would need translations X -> bibtex to make the LaTeX export work with it as well? 4. Example Could you post one of your examples? I'd love to see the prototype in action to have a proper picture of this. Thanks to all working on this! Andreas