From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Vaidheeswaran C Subject: Re: Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys? Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 14:49:14 +0530 Message-ID: References: <874mq0399a.fsf@gmx.us> <54F75222.8030805@gmail.com> <87pp8o1t9f.fsf@gmx.us> <87pp8o6nt9.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87fv9i9z8s.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bnk60zhc.fsf@berkeley.edu> <54FA9AA9.9070505@gmail.com> <87r3t05okc.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87ioeci6f6.fsf@gmx.us> <87r3szk6q9.fsf@gmx.us> <87oao3yluf.fsf@berkeley.edu> Reply-To: vaidheeswaran.chinnaraju@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33587) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUtoS-0004zC-VH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 05:17:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUtoO-0000Q3-V2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 05:17:24 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:60885) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUtoO-0000Pp-OB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 05:17:20 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YUtoL-0000iu-Gc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 10:17:17 +0100 Received: from 106.206.151.171 ([106.206.151.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 10:17:17 +0100 Received: from vaidheeswaran.chinnaraju by 106.206.151.171 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 10:17:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Monday 09 March 2015 02:27 PM, Stefan Nobis wrote: > IMHO keys with lots of ??? in them are a sign of a data problem. > Therefore the author should solve the root cause. @misc{center_for_history_and_new_media_zotero_????, title = {Zotero {Quick} {Start} {Guide}}, url = {http://zotero.org/support/quick_start_guide}, author = {{Center for History and New Media}}, annote = {Welcome to Zotero!View the Quick Start Guide to learn how to begin collecting, managing, citing, and sharing your research sources.Thanks for installing Zotero.} } Not in the specific case that I cited. The Bib entry is a pointer to a website. Insisting on a YEAR field for a website address seems a bit absurd to me. The problem is not the "data problem" but the "problem" could be in the "the inherent nature of the object that is cited". My argument is: "Stock LaTeX exporter does it, so Org should also follow suit". This argument is difficult to beat without resorting to vague generalities and hand waves. When I discuss a problem with a specific example, I would like the participants to pay attention to the DETAILS of the specific example and make their comments relevant to the example being discussed. If you had shared how I can configure Zotero to leave out the question marks that would have been the most helpful comment from your side. Anyways....