From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Martyn Jago Subject: Re: missing autoloads / (void-variable org-version) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:01:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87vcknm43o.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59592) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNNOZ-0001Wq-N7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:02:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNNOT-0002Mg-MP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:01:59 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40929) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNNOT-0002MG-Fh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:01:53 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SNNOP-00018C-1A for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:01:49 +0200 Received: from 88-96-171-142.dsl.zen.co.uk ([88.96.171.142]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:01:49 +0200 Received: from martyn.jago by 88-96-171-142.dsl.zen.co.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:01:49 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Achim Achim Gratz writes: > Since my Makefile branch was merged I've been getting flak for breaking > certain setups. Now, the change didn't actually break them, but I did > make (perhaps foolishly) a deliberate decision to make that particular > breakage fatal rather than silent. It would be very easy to continue to > paper over the breakage and pretend things are working when they're not. > What irritates me greatly is that quite a few of the people that insist > on this "solution" are the ones who would have to deal with the > Heisenbugs thus introduced. So let me explain once more what is broken: > [...] Thanks for this post - it has certainly helped me see the `rock' and the `hard place'. As an aside, I haven't used MS windows for some two years (using OS X and Linux), but this will change shortly as my next project will require a working Windows system with MSys. I could certainly document the setup of Org-mode including functioning tests etc. on a line-by-line basis if it will help. Best, Martyn > > Regards, > Achim.