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From: Ken Mankoff <mankoff@gmail.com>
To: Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: proposal to have ignoreheading tags/properties
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:41:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zjhiow78.fsf@gorgonzola.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k38m5903.fsf@gmail.com>


+1 to the OP.

On 2014-06-12 at 13:32, Thorsten Jolitz wrote:
>
> In a tree structure, when ignoring the parent node, it seems only
> logical that the siblings are ignored too.

I'm found myself in all of the following situations: 
  1. I want the heading and everything below not-exported
  2. I want the heading not-exported, but the content exported. 
     1. I don't care if the sub-headings are kept or moved up a level
     2. I do care - I want the sub-headings to remain as-is.
     3. I do care - I want the sub-headings to be promoted.
  3. I want the heading and the heading-level content not-exported, but
     sub-heading and their content exported

> You seem to use the wrong tool for the task (headlines), this looks
> like a perfect use case for TAGS, i.e. define your (concept) groups as
> tags. If these tags are not part of `org-export-exclude-tags' they
> won't affect exporting, but you can still use them to build your
> agenda or a sparse tree or so.

A simple example where tags don't work, nothing to do with agenda. Some
paper formats (Nature, for example) do not allow headings or
sub-headings. It is just 2 pages of text. But it is certainly nice to
write the paper and organize thoughts in sections and sub-sections. This
is case 2.0 above. Each heading is tagged ":noexport" and it is not
exported, but the content (text, figures, lists) below the heading is
exported. I'm not sure how tags would help here, other than the tag of
":noexport". 

Another common (for me) example is to have a heading called "* Appendix"
in a paper, and then the LaTeX "\appendix" command. The Org heading is
just for me. It should not be exported. All headings below the \appendix
command are Org sub-sections but should be promoted to \section in the
final document.

  -k.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-12 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-12 16:49 proposal to have ignoreheading tags/properties Mark Edgington
2014-06-12 17:32 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-12 17:41   ` Ken Mankoff [this message]
2014-06-12 18:11     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-12 18:16       ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-13 14:32       ` Rasmus
2014-06-13 15:02         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-12 18:09   ` Mark Edgington
2014-06-12 18:12 ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-12 18:54   ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-12 19:21     ` Nicolas Girard
2014-06-12 19:26       ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-12 19:52         ` Nicolas Girard
2014-06-13  1:20         ` Samuel Wales
2014-06-12 19:34       ` Nicolas Girard
2014-06-12 20:13       ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-12 22:42         ` Nicolas Girard
2014-06-12 23:36           ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-13  0:35         ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-13  0:46           ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-13  2:35             ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-13 11:11               ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-13  3:28             ` Mark Edgington
2014-06-13 14:23         ` Rasmus
2014-06-14 12:43         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-06-14 16:48           ` Mark Edgington
2014-06-14 18:12             ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-14 18:12             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-06-14 18:07           ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-14 18:22             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-06-14 22:39               ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-16  1:14           ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-16  8:08             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-06-16 12:19               ` Mark Edgington
2014-06-16 13:29               ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-22  2:03                 ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-22 23:52                   ` Eric Schulte
2014-07-27 17:21                     ` Bastien
2014-07-28 18:15                       ` Mark Edgington
2014-07-28 18:27                       ` Rasmus
2014-07-28 19:21                         ` Mark Edgington
2014-07-28 19:43                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-07-28 22:01                         ` Rasmus
2014-07-29 14:31                         ` Bastien
2014-08-02  5:16                           ` Mark Edgington
2014-08-06  4:09                             ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-13  2:38 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-06-13  4:07   ` Mark Edgington
2014-06-13  4:44     ` Eric Abrahamsen

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