From: "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com>
To: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, "Clément Pit--Claudel" <clement.pit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Change visibility for bracket links
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:24:07 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zim67hfs.fsf@tsdye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vawuvgyy.fsf@fastmail.fm>
Aloha Joost,
Joost Kremers writes:
> On Mon, Oct 10 2016, Clément Pit--Claudel wrote:
>> Agreed. I'd be curious to get feedback from users of
>> prettify-symbols-mode, too. And to know whether your objections
>> apply as strongly to just revealing the brackets when the point
>> is on them (not when they are being moused over)
>
> I don't use prettify-symbols-mode, but I am a fairly heavy user of
> AUCTeX's TeX-fold-mode, which hides all sorts of LaTeX code (and
> can be customised to hide even more in quite sophisticated ways).
> For example, it shows
>
> This is some \textit{emphasised} text.
>
> as
>
> This is some emphasised text.
>
> with the word "emphasised" in a different colour (to indicate that
> it's been folded) and with whatever fontification the argument of
> the \textit macro gets (italicised by default).
>
> Now, TeX-fold-mode has the behaviour you mention: as soon as you
> move point (not the mouse cursor) "into" some folded text, it gets
> unfolded (with | indicating point):
>
> This is some |\textit{emphasised} text.
>
> with the part "\textit{emphasised}" highlighted to indicate that
> it's actuall folded.
>
> Personally, I'm a *big* fan of this behaviour, even though I use
> visual-line-mode in my LaTeX buffers, which means that when text
> is temporarily unfolded, the paragraph may rewrap (and wrap back
> when point leaves the unfolded text causing it to be folded
> again). Since there is visual feedback (from the font colour) that
> some word or stretch of text is folded, I know that the text will
> unfold when I move point into it, so I don't find it distracting.
> The fact that the rest of the paragraph may rewrap is also not an
> issue for me, because I'm not actually focussing on that part of
> the text.
>
> Personally, I've also always found it annoying in Org that editing
> around links (or emphasis etc. with `org-hide-emphasis-markers'
> set to t) is unpredictable and I never really understood why
> functionality similar to TeX-fold-mode hadn't been implemented. I
> thinks it's a very straightforward and easy to understand method
> for indicating which character point is actually on, making
> editing much more comfortable.
>
> Just my €0.02, of course.
Agreed. Also, mousing over the folded text shows the unfolded text in
the minibuffer.
All the best,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-14 21:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-05 15:40 [RFC] Change visibility for bracket links Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-05 15:46 ` Rainer M Krug
2016-10-05 16:46 ` Marco Wahl
2016-10-05 21:13 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-05 19:21 ` Detlef Steuer
[not found] ` <520C9DD6-7764-4B07-8E7A-FB42CC0CDF8A@dagertech.net>
2016-10-05 21:30 ` David A. Gershman
2016-10-05 22:26 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-06 0:16 ` David A. Gershman
2016-10-06 0:27 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-07 6:13 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-12 9:27 ` Rasmus
[not found] ` <e78992df838c44419e7893671dbe2adb@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-10-06 7:38 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-10-06 14:53 ` William Denton
2016-10-08 2:38 ` Adam Porter
2016-10-08 3:50 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-08 4:00 ` Adam Porter
2016-10-10 14:17 ` Nick Dokos
2016-10-10 14:56 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-10 16:28 ` Nick Dokos
2016-10-14 20:00 ` Joost Kremers
2016-10-14 21:24 ` Thomas S. Dye [this message]
2016-10-12 7:10 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2016-10-12 10:37 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-12 10:40 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-12 17:36 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2016-10-13 12:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-13 12:28 ` Aaron Ecay
2016-10-13 12:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-13 13:20 ` Michael Brand
2016-10-13 18:23 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-13 17:46 ` Gregor Zattler
2016-10-13 22:05 ` [RFC] " Aaron Ecay
2016-10-13 17:31 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2016-10-13 18:33 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-13 19:11 ` William Denton
2016-10-12 9:23 ` Rasmus
2016-10-12 10:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-12 11:08 ` Rasmus
2016-10-12 12:21 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-12 12:47 ` Rasmus
2016-10-13 12:30 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-20 23:44 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-22 1:02 ` Stig Brautaset
2016-10-13 12:19 ` Rasmus
2016-10-13 16:13 ` Nick Dokos
2016-10-13 16:24 ` Rasmus
2016-10-13 16:43 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-13 17:18 ` Nick Dokos
2016-10-13 12:19 ` Rasmus
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