From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Eric Schulte" Subject: Re: Re: Literate Programming with Org mode Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:01:36 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87my6ordhh.fsf@mundaneum.com> <1e5bcefd0907280946r7b2eb7b9lac80ddc813fa9809@mail.gmail.com> <874oswpmk1.fsf@mundaneum.com> <20090728215355.GA5609@issac.linlan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWvUL-0002GD-OS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:01:50 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWvUH-0002Bq-RB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:01:49 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36641 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MWvUH-0002Bg-N3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:01:45 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com ([209.85.219.211]:62096) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MWvUG-0000jf-O9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:01:45 -0400 Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so1541682ewy.42 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:01:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090728215355.GA5609@issac.linlan> (sam kleinman's message of "Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:53:55 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: sam kleinman Cc: =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Vauban , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Sam, Not to be overly picky, but I think the scenario you described (while very engaging) is an instance of Reproducible Research [1]. My understanding of Reproducible Research and Literate Programming and their relation is as follows... - Literate Programming :: A style of programming in which the source code is a work of literature (i.e. is intended for human consumption) and is structured in such a way that a machine readable version can be automatically extracted from the primary document. - Reporducable Research :: A style of publishing information in which the raw data and analysis are embedded in the published document such that the analysis can be re-run and analyzed by any reader. I think the difference between these two is that in LP the "product" is the executable piece of software, where as in RR the "product" is the document itself. Cheers -- Eric PS: The initial goal of the org-babel suite was to implement Sweave type functionality as part of org-mode. sam kleinman writes: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:41:50PM +0200, S=C3=A9bastien Vauban wrote: > >> I've heard that Knuth told about it in those words: it's when we will be= able >> to read the code of a software in our bed, reading a book made of 90% of >> documentation and 10% of code. If someone can find this phrase somewhere= ... > > Here's a literate programing example:=20 > > I talked with a statistician, programer and human rights violation > researcher, who wrote (with his team) reports of statistical studies > of data regarding possible genocide incidents. He wrote the LaTeX > documents which, within the text of the document, all values and > analysis' were called in and generated when LaTeX ran, so that as data > was collected, and the report was recompiled the analysis was > completed with the most up-to-date version of the data, and that the > production of the text was isolated from the collection of data, and > from the analysis of those figures.=20 > > The stack itself, was comprised of Sweave > R for stats processing, > make, and a little bit of python for glue. I think.=20 > > As an example. I'm not an expert either on this stuff.=20 > > Cheers, > sam > -- > tycho(ish) @ > garen@tychoish.com > http://www.tychoish.com/ > http://www.criticalfutures.com/ > "don't get it right, get it written" -- james thurber > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode Footnotes:=20 [1] http://www.reproducibleresearch.org/