From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Sean Escriva Subject: Re: Some thoughts on MobileOrg and its development .... Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:47:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87a97e1mp3.fsf@gmail.com> <87fvh6rte3.fsf@cern.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47315) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHk8H-0005KO-7E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:47:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHk8D-0005CG-1f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:47:13 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22a]:38356) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHk8C-0005C5-TC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:47:08 -0400 Received: by mail-qc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id x3so545457qcv.15 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:47:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fvh6rte3.fsf@cern.ch> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Jacek Generowicz , emacs-orgmode Cc: Alexis Greetings Org users! (Current MobileOrg iOS maintainer here) Great to read some feedback. It's often hard to know who really cares if MobileOrg even exists. Jacek Generowicz writes: > Alexis writes: > >> i can't help but wonder if the 'MobileOrg' endeavour needs a reboot. > > It seems clear that it does. > >> More specifically, it seems to me that rebuilding MobileOrg as a single >> project [...] might be a way forward, > > This is vital! I haven't talked with Matburt for some time now, so I don't want to speak for him. However from my perspective there's a huge value in having a single codebase. Basically my preference is to do whatever will allow the most contributors to help out. > >> on top of Apache Cordova: >> >> https://cordova.apache.org/ > > I'd just like to float Kivy as another possibility: > > http://kivy.org > > What makes Kivy interesting to me in this context (apart from its > cross-platform nature) is its excellent support of gestures, which gives > me (the perhaps naive) hope that a little more than an utterly trivial > feature set might be provided on the mobile form factor. If Cordova or Kivy are a way to that I'm open to looking at them, but don't have experience with either. I am comfortable with python so Kivy appeals to me personally. >From the little experience I have with them, cross platform frameworks do suffer from a loss of fidelity compared to native applications but as mentioned that may be an acceptable trade off. There's tons of options for possible paths here (even https://wukix.com/mocl for fellow LISPers) but the key in my mind is to support a community of contributors. > >> Unfortunately, due to other existing commitments, i wouldn't be able >> to take point on such a reboot. > > The dreamer in me thinks this might be the itch-to-scratch that finally > motivates me to getting to grips with Kivy; the realist in me is pretty > certain that I fall into the same category as you. > Realistically this is the issue in most cases, plenty of well meaning help but not a lot of time to do anything. Life gets in the way. As of the iOS version specifically, I have held off updating due to a few requests to maintain support for older devices. My preference in the short term for iOS would be to update the code to the latest sdk and add a few minor features if needed, but then determine the best way forward to maintain a single common functional base. I am an owner on the github org: https://github.com/MobileOrg and it would be excellent to make it the central org for any efforts. I'm happy to help that happen however I can. -- -sean