From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com>
Cc: Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-ref: citation types (insert full citation); bib style; bib scope
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 10:26:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2r34g43c1.fsf@Johns-MacBook-Air.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN_Dec8+VJhFXPPJwAqDke48JdoARMBj_i2g2xyZm7YjdL41xg@mail.gmail.com>
Matt Price writes:
> After several years, I'm finally trying to move to bibtex from zotero,
> partly because org-zotxt has stopped working for me (both link insertion
> and html export seem at least temporarily broken).
>
> The UI for org-ref is pretty fantastic, and I love it. I'm having trouble
> getting the behaviour I want fro mthe actual links, though. My needs may
> be somewhat atypical but I'm hoping someone else has figured these
> questions out already.
>
> * citation types
> The org-ref manual talks about different citation types, but the external
> link it suggests is not loading:
> http://ctan.unixbrain.com/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/natnotes.pdf
try: http://tug.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/natnotes.pdf
>
> Does anyone know what the other options are? In particular, for the syllabi
> I'm currently creating I'd like to just insert the org-formatted citation
> information itself -- is this possible?
Can you give an example?
> I'd like to be able to point my
> students directly to my github repo, and it will ultimately be more
> convenient to have the links already present in the source code, since
> github doesn't reoslve org-ref
I do not follow what you want here. Another example would be helpful.
>
> * bib style
> When I right-click on a link and select "copy the formatted citation", I
> don't get the URL field, which my students need. I assume that's because
> I'm not using the right bibliographic style. How do I set the citation
> format? Would I use the bibliographystyle link, or a header argument
> somewhere?
Support for this is kind of rudimentary, because it is really difficult
to get properly formatted strings for all references.
When you click on a cite link and select copy formatted entry what
happens is the bibfile is opened to that entry and then the result of
org-ref-bib-citation is copied. It is pretty simple, and limited. At the
moment, I think helm-bibtex does the actual formatting if you load it,
and it does not appear to be customizable. See bibtex-completion-apa-format-reference
I will work on this a little bit and see if some improvements can be
made.
>
> Also, is it possible to set this option to use org formatting instead of
> html formatting?
You could use a function like this on a link to get something more
customizable.
(defun better-formatted-citation ()
(interactive)
(kill-new (org-ref-get-bibtex-entry-citation (car (org-ref-get-bibtex-key-and-file)))))
see the variable org-ref-bibliography-entry-format, you can set this to
be whatever format you want.
>
> * Bibliography scope
> I guess I don't really know how to build a bibliographic file to go with a
> particular project. At present I am using my full Zotero library exported
> to bibtex as a default. Is there a way to just build the bibliography from
> the set of sources cited in the paper?
M-x org-ref-extract-bibtex-entries should put a new heading in the buffer
with the relevant bibtex entries.
>
> Thanks everyone, and of course especially John for this amazing tool.
>
> Matt
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-06 15:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-06 14:27 org-ref: citation types (insert full citation); bib style; bib scope Matt Price
2017-01-06 15:26 ` John Kitchin [this message]
2017-01-06 16:05 ` Matt Price
2017-01-06 16:10 ` John Kitchin
2017-01-06 20:42 ` John Kitchin
2017-01-07 3:13 ` Matt Price
2017-01-07 13:23 ` John Kitchin
2019-08-30 19:12 ` org-ref: conditionally add url to formatted citation Matt Price
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