From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) Subject: Re: Citation syntax: a revised proposal Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 14:24:22 -1000 Message-ID: References: <87k2zjnc0e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87bnkvm8la.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87zj8co3se.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87ioezooi2.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87mw4bpaiu.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <8761aznpiq.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87twyjnh0r.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87oaopx24e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87k2zd4f3w.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87egpkv8g9.fsf@berkeley.edu> <877fv6xfaq.fsf@gmail.com> <87twya2ak0.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87zj81aa97.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87ioep2r6p.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87y4ngbgm7.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h9u4csln.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58523) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSEAC-0007cp-9y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 19:24:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSEA5-0006LK-7o for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 19:24:48 -0500 Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([69.89.18.3]:53619) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSEA5-0006KG-0N for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 19:24:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87h9u4csln.fsf@gmx.us> (rasmus@gmx.us's message of "Sun, 01 Mar 2015 22:31:32 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Rasmus Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Rasmus writes: > Probably a CITATION_STYLE as well, e.g. "numeric", "author-year", etc. I suggest we keep Patrick Daly's distinction between "citation style" and "citation mode". Hence, #+CITATION_MODE instead of #+CITATION_STYLE. IIUC, there are three citation modes: 1. Harvard, author-date, author-year, etc. In this mode, some citation detail is given at the point of the Org mode citation. 2. Vancouver, footnote, etc. In this mode, the point of the Org mode citation is indicated by a number that references a footnote or endnote where some citation detail is given. In some variants of this mode, the full citation information is provided in the footnote or endnote and no separate bibliography is used, while in others only partial citation detail is provided in the footnote or endnote and a bibliography is provided. 3. Numerical. In this mode, no citation detail is inserted, only a number that references an entry in the bibliography. Within each of these three modes, there are numerous citation styles, which refer to the placement of items and the kinds of punctuation in the citation. In the wild, a particular citation style might appear with one bibliographic style or another. Hence, the separation of citation styles from bibliographic styles in systems such as biblatex. The following tables describe my uncertainty about how the Org mode citations map to these three modes. The tables show example (modulo style) replacement text at the point of the Org mode citation. Note that the Vancouver mode will also require the addition of citation information in a footnote or endnote, separate from the position of the Org mode citation. #+name: first-map | citation | Harvard | Vancouver | numerical | |----------+---------------+-----------+-----------| | @key | author year | 1 | 1 | | [@key] | (author year) | (1) | (1) | | cite: | author year | 1 | 1 | | (cite): | (author year) | (1) | (1) | #+name: second-map | citation | Harvard | Vancouver | numerical | |----------+---------------+------------+------------| | @key | author (year) | author (1) | author (1) | | [@key] | (author year) | (1) | (1) | | cite: | author (year) | author (1) | author (1) | | (cite): | (author year) | (1) | (1) | Or, is there a third-map that better captures what we're discussing? All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com