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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1649003789; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Svlsou28oUEXKzud5JbyfbhODqw8vEMFg19hbWNgXZQ=; b=h0GzUUVcQX5AGRCgVDVx5BFmsN+2pXIeVviTdB8NwRKESAl4xYVh90ZvYI9WSrguig9VvW ZgkdasntV+wjjoabUUjbNEeq4qKQcGfjFjFnImt2YMo2f3oKeWJbwEK2rtg6RnVbO8PfiW ViyLFtJIawTtEHGYpvDeonRvO41MJzbrFO+O6yDC/AcBeN0Q6dLuLgN9gHZh/CvsQaJUg6 /ljLsiumeFTEZO6I8JCd8ql77XkkEECe0C2+r5lQP1aYcxxk6l3h7CR0rF5gBs+ngUo0bE YGAkb7orr/JAJ8Ndf5htv+owdol7bKpJlAOmXAI0/nrtezedAgsdiWIJES2Zdg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1649003789; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OKGAsSvyhP84q9bKxSCU4BY4xOe5xVvTQSAbVya0rJw2jwoAkGtrZJj+mX55q80BVX32Kc /I5RpPr1dZhWuECRW/D67nXxrcZYKUjqWRsVrYVMSfZQPx2LUSmyUU1TniByHwXNhPek02 jssQL9Gk5X0iqTuCOJVdzcexkfJ/M5pi+TH1ItWXU030flakRi/9LEhRrJlZMAZJW4ix0T M9ANpENZpklLNbR1Imch/4Z25lOJWKqK1IrT8dLkdgrEFEa+mP70XTYtxO4hKO+gL12dca ZJINlSjeA8cxmHpPY4SjCX+XuKBOA2IpvFuRLEwk0vQP5jlPG00vXLHh223D4Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=me.com header.s=1a1hai header.b=d7+ddFUl; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=me.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.58 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=me.com header.s=1a1hai header.b=d7+ddFUl; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=me.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: F41C02EF95 X-Spam-Score: -9.58 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: y1kxLGmAW0iY Yuchen Guo writes: Hi Yuchen! > I think we can solve this issue by looking at how Wikipedia does the > alignment of text and LaTeX snippets. [...] The alignment parameters > are also dependent on the snippet itself. Good idea! > For me, Emacs using MathJax as default came across as an unpleasant > surprise: any person aware of the free/libre software movement knows > that one should never allow Javascript to run in their browser: (ref > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html ). > > MathJax is not even compatible with LibreJS and loads script from > a bunch of 3rd-party servers like Cloudflare. This enables those 3rd > parties to track visitors to your website. How did that get through the FSF/RMS strict ethical requirements for Emacs? As soon as the user adds a simple "$1 + 1 =3D 2$" to their Org document, the HTML export from Emacs/Org becomes quietly tracked by an American company. Emacs should never do that, IMO. [I decided to CC RMS on this issue.] (On a related note, the Emacs/Org manual mentions, "if you are following a system like David Allen's GTD", implicitly promoting a book that the publisher distributes just with mandatory DRM [1].) [1] https://orgmode.org/manual/Stuck-projects.html Agreed 100 percent with everything else you said. Further, in addition to the ethical issues, MathJax also makes the website render slower. With SVG, mathematics appears instantly, like on Wikipedia. > Unrelated but I think its best to not use Apple dis-services: [...] Definitely, and thank you for the reminder. The address dates back to when I still used Apple services. These days, I do not use them for personal purposes anymore, except for their IMAP server to fetch the messages. That said, I do plan to address the issue for sure. Rudy --=20 "Thinking is a momentary dismissal of irrelevancies." -- Richard Buckminster Fuller, 1969 Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D [he/him] Studenohorsk=C3=A1 25 84103 Bratislava Slovakia