* Smarter indent with C-j
@ 2007-03-06 11:00 Leo
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From: Leo @ 2007-03-06 11:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello!
I am wondering if the following behavior is desirable.
*** Head 1
|
^ C-j should move the point here
- Item 1
|
^ C-j should move the point here
Regards,
--
Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com> (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)
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* Re: Smarter indent with C-j
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@ 2007-03-06 16:30 ` Leo
2007-03-06 18:44 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Leo @ 2007-03-06 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello, Eddward!
On 2007-03-06, Eddward DeVilla said:
> I would like this.
Follow up in the mailing list would increase the chance of this
feature being implemented by Carsten ;)
> I would want to make sure it doesn't use tab characters though. I
> already have something inserting tabs in the left margin that is
> playing merry heck with C-q and autofill.
I hate tab as well but I don't know what's the best to suggest.
> Are you thinking it would only work directly under a heading or on
> any line under a heading?
C-j can do that indent already in any mode i.e.
Fist line
|
^ C-j move the point here.
> Edd
>
> On 3/6/07, Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> I am wondering if the following behavior is desirable.
>>
>> *** Head 1
>> |
>> ^ C-j should move the point here
>>
>> - Item 1
>> |
>> ^ C-j should move the point here
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com> (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
regards,
--
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* Re: Smarter indent with C-j
2007-03-06 16:30 ` Leo
@ 2007-03-06 18:44 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-03-06 21:13 ` Eddward DeVilla
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-03-06 18:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leo; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Mar 6, 2007, at 17:30, Leo wrote:
> Hello, Eddward!
>
> On 2007-03-06, Eddward DeVilla said:
>
>> I would like this.
>
> Follow up in the mailing list would increase the chance of this
> feature being implemented by Carsten ;)
>
>> I would want to make sure it doesn't use tab characters though. I
>> already have something inserting tabs in the left margin that is
>> playing merry heck with C-q and autofill.
>
> I hate tab as well but I don't know what's the best to suggest.
(setq indent-tabs-mode nil)
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* Re: Smarter indent with C-j
2007-03-06 11:00 Smarter indent with C-j Leo
[not found] ` <b71b18520703060800s258d4727ve93bb698033ae268@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2007-03-06 18:45 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-03-07 7:48 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-03-06 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leo; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Mar 6, 2007, at 12:00, Leo wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I am wondering if the following behavior is desirable.
>
> *** Head 1
> |
> ^ C-j should move the point here
>
> - Item 1
> |
> ^ C-j should move the point here
Yes, I would say it is. I'll put it on the list.
- Carsten
>
> Regards,
> --
> Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com> (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Smarter indent with C-j
2007-03-06 18:44 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-03-06 21:13 ` Eddward DeVilla
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From: Eddward DeVilla @ 2007-03-06 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Leo
On 3/6/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>
> On Mar 6, 2007, at 17:30, Leo wrote:
>
> > Hello, Eddward!
> >
> > On 2007-03-06, Eddward DeVilla said:
> >
> >> I would like this.
> >
> > Follow up in the mailing list would increase the chance of this
> > feature being implemented by Carsten ;)
I forget to hit 'reply to all' all the time. :-)
> >> I would want to make sure it doesn't use tab characters though. I
> >> already have something inserting tabs in the left margin that is
> >> playing merry heck with C-q and autofill.
> >
> > I hate tab as well but I don't know what's the best to suggest.
>
> (setq indent-tabs-mode nil)
Thanks!
Edd
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* Re: Smarter indent with C-j
2007-03-06 11:00 Smarter indent with C-j Leo
[not found] ` <b71b18520703060800s258d4727ve93bb698033ae268@mail.gmail.com>
2007-03-06 18:45 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-03-07 7:48 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-03-22 8:05 ` Leo
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-03-07 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leo; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Fixed, thanks.
- Carsten
On Mar 6, 2007, at 12:00, Leo wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I am wondering if the following behavior is desirable.
>
> *** Head 1
> |
> ^ C-j should move the point here
>
> - Item 1
> |
> ^ C-j should move the point here
>
> Regards,
> --
> Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com> (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Smarter indent with C-j
2007-03-07 7:48 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-03-22 8:05 ` Leo
[not found] ` <b71b18520703220848r5ab5db5w9c9ed54cccbe4ca4@mail.gmail.com>
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From: Leo @ 2007-03-22 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 2007-03-07, Carsten Dominik said:
> Fixed, thanks.
>
> - Carsten
I just noticed one minor issue for check boxes. As in org 4.69:
- [ ] Check box 1<--- C-j
|<--- cursor moved here
I think the following is more elegant:
- [ ] Check box 1<--- C-j
|<--- cursor moved here
What do people think?
Best,
--
Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com> (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)
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* Re: Re: Smarter indent with C-j
[not found] ` <b71b18520703220848r5ab5db5w9c9ed54cccbe4ca4@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2007-03-22 16:00 ` Leo
2007-03-25 9:40 ` Leo
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From: Leo @ 2007-03-22 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eddward DeVilla; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
I CC the list.
On 2007-03-22, Eddward DeVilla said:
> On 3/22/07, Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2007-03-07, Carsten Dominik said:
>>
>> > Fixed, thanks.
>
>> >
>> > - Carsten
>>
>> I just noticed one minor issue for check boxes. As in org 4.69:
>>
>> - [ ] Check box 1<--- C-j
>> |<--- cursor moved here
>>
>> I think the following is more elegant:
>> - [ ] Check box 1<--- C-j
>> |<--- cursor moved here
>>
>> What do people think?
>
> I tend to use the top behavior, but I do kind of the look of the second one. How would
> you handle subcheck boxes?
>
> - [ ] list 1
> - [ ] list 1.1
>
> or
>
> - [ ] list 1
> - [ ] list 1.1
>
> Now that I think of it, this could be a little hairy for me. Right now the behavior is
> uniform. Always a 2 char indent (but I could live with a uniform 4 or 6 char). But
> sometimes I do the following
>
> - [/] list 1
> - [ ] list 1.1
>
> The size of the [/] token can vary. I think I'd still like it to be treated like a box
> in this case. I guess I'd like it to indent the number of character as a checkbox
> line.
>
> Also, how would you handle numbered lists where the indent would also change for lists
> with 10 or more items.
>
> 1) [ ] foo1
> bar1
> 2) [ ] foo2
> bar2
> ...
> 10) [ ] foo10
> bar10
>
> Sorry for some many questions. I'm not against it. I think I've convinced myself I'd
> I'd like a deeper indent for readability. My just not sure what the right thing is in
> all cases.
>
> Edd
I didn't think of that many cases. But the questions are all good for
triggering a better solution. Thanks.
--
Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com> (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)
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* Re: Re: Smarter indent with C-j
[not found] ` <b71b18520703220848r5ab5db5w9c9ed54cccbe4ca4@mail.gmail.com>
2007-03-22 16:00 ` Leo
@ 2007-03-25 9:40 ` Leo
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From: Leo @ 2007-03-25 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I now find some time to think about Eddward's questions and I just
realized all those questions have little to do with what C-j should
do.
My proposed change is in common with some other outliners such as this
one: http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/pro/
Any comments?
On 2007-03-22, Eddward DeVilla said:
>> I just noticed one minor issue for check boxes. As in org 4.69:
>>
>> - [ ] Check box 1<--- C-j
>> |<--- cursor moved here
>>
>> I think the following is more elegant:
>> - [ ] Check box 1<--- C-j
>> |<--- cursor moved here
>>
>> What do people think?
>
> I tend to use the top behavior, but I do kind of the look of the
> second one. How would you handle subcheck boxes?
>
> - [ ] list 1
> - [ ] list 1.1
> or
>
> - [ ] list 1
> - [ ] list 1.1
This is not related to C-j, which stays in the same list entry or
heading.
>
> Now that I think of it, this could be a little hairy for me. Right
>now the behavior is
> uniform. Always a 2 char indent (but I could live with a uniform 4 or 6 char). But
> sometimes I do the following
>
> - [/] list 1
> - [ ] list 1.1
>
> The size of the [/] token can vary. I think I'd still like it to be treated like a box
> in this case. I guess I'd like it to indent the number of character as a checkbox
> line.
Again, not related to what C-j does.
>
> Also, how would you handle numbered lists where the indent would
>also change for lists
> with 10 or more items.
>
> 1) [ ] foo1
> bar1
> 2) [ ] foo2
> bar2
> ...
> 10) [ ] foo10
> bar10
Again not related. C-j is about aligning text.
Best,
--
Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com> (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)
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