From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Eric Schulte" Subject: Re: Emacs 21.4.1 support Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:21:17 -0600 Message-ID: References: <4AAE814C.500@gmail.com> <87r5u9fj2u.fsf@mahal.sjds.teklibre.org> <20090914201516.GQ9795@newton.linlan> <878wghf1xb.fsf@mahal.sjds.teklibre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnMjY-0006MA-1Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:21:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnMjS-0006Lo-98 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:21:26 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37839 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MnMjS-0006Ll-78 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:21:22 -0400 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.243]:48842) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MnMjR-0007yv-OF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:21:21 -0400 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so1540344ana.21 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:21:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878wghf1xb.fsf@mahal.sjds.teklibre.org> ("Dave =?utf-8?Q?T?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A4ht=22's?= message of "Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:10:24 -0600") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Dave =?utf-8?Q?T=C3=A4ht?= Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org d@teklibre.org (Dave T=C3=A4ht) writes: > You are right, but I have found the default install of emacs to be so > lame on so many distros for so long that I can understand why people > have flocked to other editors.=20 > > Take, for example, the fact that no distro that I know of installs an > emacs compatible ansi-term entry in terminfo by default. (Couple that > with the fact that no terminal emulator I have found in emacs works as > good as the equivalent in xterm, gnome-terminal, etc. It's really > bugging me at the moment, actually, I'd really like to use ansi-term but > every time I try it ends up spewing data all on the same line after a > while. I swear I had it working well for a few days with 23.1 but then I > went back to emacs-snapshot because I didn't want to build everything > Emacs-snapshot did for me) > > Multiply by the huge number of packages required to make emacs > competitive with eclipse, like semantic. Stir in missing-by-default > emacs modes like Python mode. > > Compare with the bundled supported moduls of vim for system > administration and basic programming tasks. Simmer, > then run away. For a better set of defaults (more modes and bells and whistles and a nice extensible initialization structure), I'd recommend one of the following... http://github.com/technomancy/emacs-starter-kit/tree or my preferred versions of the above http://github.com/eschulte/emacs-starter-kit http://eschulte.github.com/emacs-starter-kit/ cheers -- Eric