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From: Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Writing .el files for org in org?
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 10:12:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2d2f644h2.fsf@krugs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lhturac1.fsf@gmail.com> (Aaron Ecay's message of "Wed, 21 May 2014 19:25:37 -0400")

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Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Rainer,
>
> I have wondered about what you suggest as well, from the point of view
> of trying to modify the long pieces of R code which are embedded in
> strings in ob-R.el.  I think this would be easier if they could be
> tangled from R code blocks in an org file.  So from that point of view
> the idea has a +1 from me.

That is one aspect am looking at (independent of the org file question)
at the moment, to make the R code more configurable. My approach is to 

a) have it in a emacs string variables which can be customized, or
b) in an R file which is loaded and used instead of the definition in
the variable. If you are interested, please see my org [1] and ess [2]
which, at the moment, have to be used together, as I am "outsourcing"
the loading at the moment to ESS.

Concerning putting them in an org file, I don't see a real advantage
here, unless the ob-R.el is also in an org file.

>
> I am not so convinced that having all the elisp code in an org file
> would be convenient, since I am worried that would break the interactive
> features of elisp programming.  (edebug, find-function, paredit, ...).
> But if you are doing the experiment, I would be glad to see what you
> come up with: the benefits might turn out to be worth the potential
> drawbacks.

I am not thinking about having the org files used for actual running
org, but rather as a tool to write the code. The workflow would be then:

1) in the org file, write the code for ob-R.el including documentation
2) tangle the file to ob-R.el 
3) debug ob-R.el - in R
4) untangle the edits back into the ob-R.org file
5) done

So the tools for debugging would be still working on the .el file.

Rainer

>
> --
> Aaron Ecay


Footnotes: 
[1]  https://github.com/rkrug/orgmode-dev

[2]  https://github.com/rkrug/ess-dev

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-22  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-21 20:21 Writing .el files for org in org? Rainer M Krug
2014-05-21 23:25 ` Aaron Ecay
2014-05-22  8:12   ` Rainer M Krug [this message]
2014-05-22  8:56   ` Bastien
2014-05-22  9:25     ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-22  9:29       ` Bastien
2014-05-22  9:54         ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-22 11:04           ` Bastien
2014-05-22 11:42             ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-22 15:10               ` Bastien
2014-05-23  7:29                 ` Rainer M Krug
2014-06-02 11:22             ` John Kitchin
2014-06-02 14:00               ` Rainer M Krug
2014-07-27 21:50                 ` Bastien
2014-07-30  2:04                   ` John Kitchin
2014-05-22 15:44           ` Josh Berry
2014-05-22 18:49             ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-22  0:30 ` Grant Rettke
2014-05-22  8:30   ` Rainer M Krug
2014-05-22 23:34     ` Grant Rettke
2014-05-27  8:45 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-05-27  9:07   ` Rainer M Krug

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