From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) Subject: Re: Citation syntax: a revised proposal Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 07:25:43 -1000 Message-ID: References: <87k2zjnc0e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87bnkvm8la.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87zj8co3se.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87ioezooi2.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87mw4bpaiu.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <8761aznpiq.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87twyjnh0r.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87oaopx24e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87k2zd4f3w.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87egpkv8g9.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87a908qrmm.fsf@gmx.us> <877fvba32j.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55456) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YPDof-0007nv-L9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:26:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YPDoa-0004hd-L7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:26:09 -0500 Received: from gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([69.89.20.226]:51844) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YPDoa-0004gk-EK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:26:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: <877fvba32j.fsf@gmx.us> (rasmus@gmx.us's message of "Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:58:44 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Rasmus Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Rasmus writes: > What Org desperately needs in terms of > reproducible, scientific writing is a rigorous, standard syntax. IMHO, the citation syntax discussion is more about making citations work correctly in the various backends and less about reproducible documents. Babel was a key development for reproducible documents. With babel, "non-standard" functions could be stuffed in a noexport section, made buffer local with Emacs local variables, and distributed so others can reproduce the document. This model has a certain beauty. A community of scholars can share reproducible documents and concentrate on the content without having to agree upon and use a standard syntax for document preparation. Or, a sub-community of scholars, like the Kitchin research group, can adopt a package built on top of extensible syntax, then distribute their work in reproducible form to scholars in the larger community. At any rate, I'm just reacting to "desperately needs" and "rigorous, standard". I think Samuel's ideas on extensible syntax are compatible with reproducible scientific writing. All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com