From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ken Mankoff Subject: Re: BEGIN_LATEX_HEADER [cont] Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:19:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wqccbgvj.fsf@gmail.com> <864mzghvcl.fsf@somewhere.org> <87ppi4t15s.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87simzu6f4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87mwd624xg.fsf@gmail.com> <87simyk796.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87tx7dbwqo.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WyXOd-0005Nc-0J for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:20:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WyXOU-0003qC-0B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:20:42 -0400 Received: from mail-qg0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e]:58056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WyXOT-0003pE-Ov for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:20:33 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id q107so4678219qgd.5 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:20:32 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <87tx7dbwqo.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Aaron Ecay Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou On 2014-06-21 at 20:42, Aaron Ecay wrote: > 2014ko ekainak 21an, Nicolas Goaziou-ek idatzi zuen: >> >> Aaron Ecay writes: >> >>> The first is that editing non-trivial latex code embedded in an >>> elisp string quickly becomes tedious, whereas it’s much pleasanter >>> in org using org-edit-special, syntax highlighting of src blocks, >>> etc. >> >> This is a no-op since you only do it a limited number of times, i.e. >> once for each document type. > > If you do it once, then it’s not a no-op, by definition. I think you > mean that you disagree in the amount which you weight this as a > concern, which is a reasonable opinion to have. But phrasing it in > the way you did is inaccurate and rather curt. > > FWIW, in my experience latex (or any) code rarely flows from mind to > keyboard perfectly in the first attempt; there is some period of > revision, during which convenient editing matters. It is not a 1x operation, it is a per-document operation. For example, in my use-case that started this whole discussion, each publication requires tweaking a dozen or more lines of biblatex config. -k.