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* org-ref, abstracts
@ 2016-03-23  8:54 Julien Cubizolles
  2016-03-23 13:18 ` John Kitchin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Julien Cubizolles @ 2016-03-23  8:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

I'm starting to use org-ref to manage bibtex file, and it's impressively
useful ! However I couldn't find a variable to have the
*-add-bibtex-entry create an abstract field in the bibtex entry. Is it
possible? If not, I think it would be a useful addition.

J. Cubizolles

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* Re: org-ref, abstracts
  2016-03-23  8:54 org-ref, abstracts Julien Cubizolles
@ 2016-03-23 13:18 ` John Kitchin
  2016-03-23 15:37   ` Julien Cubizolles
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2016-03-23 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julien Cubizolles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

I am pretty sure the metadata from dx.doi.org doesn't contain any
abstract information, so there is not a way to put anything useful in
it. The abstract is often covered by copyright. You can add your own
abstract with bibtex-make-field (C-c C-f) in a bibtex entry, or you can
copy the bibtex entries from publisher sites which usually do contain
the abstract if you ask for it.


Julien Cubizolles writes:

> I'm starting to use org-ref to manage bibtex file, and it's impressively
> useful! However I couldn't find a variable to have the
> *-add-bibtex-entry create an abstract field in the bibtex entry. Is it
> possible? If not, I think it would be a useful addition.
>
> J. Cubizolles


--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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* Re: org-ref, abstracts
  2016-03-23 13:18 ` John Kitchin
@ 2016-03-23 15:37   ` Julien Cubizolles
  2016-03-23 15:43     ` John Kitchin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Julien Cubizolles @ 2016-03-23 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> I am pretty sure the metadata from dx.doi.org doesn't contain any
> abstract information, so there is not a way to put anything useful in
> it. The abstract is often covered by copyright. 

I hadn't thought of that. But for some sources (arXiv comes to mind)
that could be done, right ?

> You can add your own abstract with bibtex-make-field (C-c C-f) in a
> bibtex entry, or you can copy the bibtex entries from publisher sites
> which usually do contain the abstract if you ask for it.

Since the url of the paper is included in the bibtex entry, it's pretty
easy to get to the journal site and copy the abstract.

Julien.

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* Re: org-ref, abstracts
  2016-03-23 15:37   ` Julien Cubizolles
@ 2016-03-23 15:43     ` John Kitchin
  2016-04-04  4:59       ` Julien Cubizolles
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2016-03-23 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julien Cubizolles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Julien Cubizolles writes:

> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>> I am pretty sure the metadata from dx.doi.org doesn't contain any
>> abstract information, so there is not a way to put anything useful in
>> it. The abstract is often covered by copyright.
>
> I hadn't thought of that. But for some sources (arXiv comes to mind)
> that could be done, right?

If the data exists, then arxiv-add-bibtex-entry could probably add the
abstract if it existed. I am not too familiar with arxiv so I am not sure.

>
>> You can add your own abstract with bibtex-make-field (C-c C-f) in a
>> bibtex entry, or you can copy the bibtex entries from publisher sites
>> which usually do contain the abstract if you ask for it.
>
> Since the url of the paper is included in the bibtex entry, it's pretty
> easy to get to the journal site and copy the abstract.
>
> Julien.



--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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* Re: org-ref, abstracts
  2016-03-23 15:43     ` John Kitchin
@ 2016-04-04  4:59       ` Julien Cubizolles
  2016-04-04 12:26         ` John Kitchin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Julien Cubizolles @ 2016-04-04  4:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:


> If the data exists, then arxiv-add-bibtex-entry could probably add the
> abstract if it existed. I am not too familiar with arxiv so I am not
> sure.

Just noticed that arxiv-get-pdf-add-bibtex-entry now includes the
abstract. Thanks a lot for implementing it.

Julien.

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* Re: org-ref, abstracts
  2016-04-04  4:59       ` Julien Cubizolles
@ 2016-04-04 12:26         ` John Kitchin
  2016-04-04 15:33           ` Julien Cubizolles
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2016-04-04 12:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julien Cubizolles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

no problem. I am not sure when that happened though ;)

Julien Cubizolles writes:

> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>
>> If the data exists, then arxiv-add-bibtex-entry could probably add the
>> abstract if it existed. I am not too familiar with arxiv so I am not
>> sure.
>
> Just noticed that arxiv-get-pdf-add-bibtex-entry now includes the
> abstract. Thanks a lot for implementing it.
>
> Julien.


--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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* Re: org-ref, abstracts
  2016-04-04 12:26         ` John Kitchin
@ 2016-04-04 15:33           ` Julien Cubizolles
  2016-04-04 15:42             ` John Kitchin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Julien Cubizolles @ 2016-04-04 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Kitchin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> no problem. I am not sure when that happened though ;)

Do you mean you didn't add this functionnality recently and it's been
here all along ?

Julien.

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* Re: org-ref, abstracts
  2016-04-04 15:33           ` Julien Cubizolles
@ 2016-04-04 15:42             ` John Kitchin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2016-04-04 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julien Cubizolles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

I think thats what I mean.

org-ref-arxiv hasn't been changed for at least two months I think.

and the abstract is listed in the template here:
https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/2a8635d4662fbe77f43731edeac1b4ec1112d233/org-ref-arxiv.el#L103


Julien Cubizolles writes:

> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>> no problem. I am not sure when that happened though ;)
>
> Do you mean you didn't add this functionnality recently and it's been
> here all along?
>
> Julien.


--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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