From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: andrea Subject: Re: Collaborate with heretics Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:35:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDk7r-0001lE-6u for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:35:35 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDk7m-0001ek-Cd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:35:34 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34968 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDk7m-0001eT-6V for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:35:30 -0500 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:44578) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDk7l-0003tR-LH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:35:30 -0500 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NDk7j-00086v-Qr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:35:27 +0100 Received: from ip116-027.hgracht.rwth-aachen.de ([134.130.116.27]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:35:27 +0100 Received: from andrea.crotti.0 by ip116-027.hgracht.rwth-aachen.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:35:27 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org I try to be a prophet of emacs and org-mode but sometimes it's just a loss of time. Even very skilled informatics weren't convinced, sometimes they didn't like it sometimes they just didn't want to spend time on it. Once it happened that a friend of mine that was working with excel tables saw how the text was flowing nicely on my org-mode buffer. He was amazed and wanted to know everything and use it. I was very happy about and I installed all the necessary, but then it didn't work out. It's just too "alien" for people used to work with office (bleah). Emacs is not easy, org-mode also adds a lot of complexity (even if it's really elegant and clear), and if both are not used daily it could become more a pain than a pleasure. But I'm convinced there's nothing more powerful on earth than org-mode for working with plain text files. So my question is a bit egoistic in fact, I want it whenever possible also forcing other people to do it. The other way for serious work is anyway latex, which is not at all easier to manage. Regarding the org-lite, I think it's quite difficult to create it, the text manipulation which is done is really dynamic, a normal grammar would not be enough. But I guess in org-mobile there's code that could be very useful for an org-lite, is there a plan to port that program to osx/windows/linux?