From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) Subject: Re: Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX (was: Fwd: Exporting latex without preamble) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:35:56 -1000 Message-ID: References: <87zkl1tv44.fsf@gnu.org> <2011-06-29T22-26-24@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59947) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QcArC-0001YZ-DE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:36:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QcArA-0003ih-V8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:36:10 -0400 Received: from oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com ([69.89.21.11]:44853) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QcArA-0003iU-Mi for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:36:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <2011-06-29T22-26-24@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> (Karl Voit's message of "Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:35:58 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: news1142@Karl-Voit.at Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Aloha Karl, I agree that AucTeX is awesome. I use it every day at work with much pleasure. I've been using Org-mode with the goal of creating reproducible research, where the LaTeX output is just one part of the package. In my case, this is something that requires Org-mode for its ability to pass results between code blocks written in different languages. I can't do these things in AucTeX. At first, like you, I was suspicious of adding a layer between me and LaTeX. I was impatient with figuring out how to make the little things work right. I'm still not able to control LaTeX as finely as I'd like from within Org-mode, but I've managed to close the gap sufficiently that my last four publications were authored completely with Org-mode. The one I'm working on now is Org-mode, too. I'm really liking it as an authoring environment. All the best, Tom Karl Voit writes: > * Thomas S. Dye wrote: >> Aloha Rafael, > > Sorry, I thought you might as well be interested in my point of > view. > > First: I am pretty new to Org-mode but I am using LaTeX a while now > and I am even teaching LaTeX to motivated beginners. > >> Is there a reason not to have everything in one .org file? I find >> Org-mode's ability to fold on headlines and to edit subtrees in indirect >> buffers very convenient, even for long documents. For my work, that >> functionality has replaced LaTeX \include files. > > I did not follow the thread here but I do think I get the idea that > you want to replace LaTeX with Org-mode and generate a PDF via > LaTeX/PDF-export functionality of Org-mode. > > On the one hand, I do agree that (simple) PDF documents are written > very easily with Org-mode. But on the other hand you are going to > add just another layer. This means that you probably end up wanting > this LaTeX feature in Org-mode, that other handy LaTeX feature too > and so forth. > > In my point of view, if you leave the basic stuff, you should stick > to LaTeX. And I do have good news to you: You are very fortune > because Emacs does have the IMHO most advanced editor support for > LaTeX: AucTeX (with all of its extensions like preview-latex and > RefTeX). > > I plan to use Org-mode as an outline tool for larger documents, > where the basic structure evolves, keywords are moved from one part > to the other. But before I start to write the detailed document > content, I move to AucTeX, having the great possibilities for > writing documents that end up being great PDFs. > > But this is just my point of view. -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com