From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms9.migadu.com with LMTPS id cDrLNOpgomTxLAEASxT56A (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 03 Jul 2023 07:47:22 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id SL3ZNOpgomQn0QAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 03 Jul 2023 07:47:22 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FE7413843 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2023 07:47:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qGCOS-00050X-KF; Mon, 03 Jul 2023 01:46:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qGCOQ-0004p8-6k for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jul 2023 01:46:34 -0400 Received: from basilikum.nobis-admin.de ([89.238.71.130]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qGCOL-0002ZO-TH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jul 2023 01:46:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=snobis.de; s=default; t=1688363187; bh=YVWg3NUsRUdcNFPo4lmizpifCTB/4SK7sndLEILvjos=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=UHTNPVNS3Vca2fd/C/Fp3LHJh/zqFHPSE1UhZfub76Fz7wcdSFvoiDtH96Ghu+w5e aEZ138Zm27cR+D2W4N92J/QV+tqSUFZ/f/rm09fModNF6UZ9p3+9nfjxrhvB8LtcFW uSGiicFUYhwUJStfeE6hLPz5mLv/+EgMv74ACTgU= From: Stefan Nobis To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: exporting to PDF multi-lingual document References: <873528n00q.fsf@web.de> <87ttum4s1k.fsf@localhost> <87sfa68g0s.fsf@localhost> <87lefy8d1f.fsf@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2023 07:46:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87lefy8d1f.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sun, 02 Jul 2023 16:59:40 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=89.238.71.130; envelope-from=stefan-ml@snobis.de; helo=basilikum.nobis-admin.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1688363242; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=C5lyFtUIWGjZibN/+4d/mASkvbrxpgu1N0oMLYViWaA=; b=jUuh2I9QAytqAIC4pd+e1VTLaEljo4HGkcf8LIsROxxMd5Q3idaIvgoFytkaU3LYQnGflx 6GAf5+qe0PGqDoMQb+4GcmHP22plHa9UvBFoo6IosnHZyKHtKp8il6e7QevqCsKghyr+gF 346LSjF2vvocPTQ8yCbLfieBAzu4BBBP2TZMou37QaSW4Uzf3RkNKilTcRlExZLy+mxlqu 6o/NTSC4Kdh6jXnQL+pnv4orq5AsPVefnEGVjI6mW1jVqWU4Uv5GPuhmk69OQW6oXX7YaW ROgZsVK7BtUIMkOltvOCmr2fD4INiW+C2Phf+BNIIatmTxmiv96/3tuP9Y/JmA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=snobis.de header.s=default header.b=UHTNPVNS; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=snobis.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1688363242; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Xh9S6nDHLmkD/3C/3obbL0UDrT6V5bEczsf8Rs/8mhPCxOUSnhv0OZjBQDO+HLjWh8CZT5 HXc5hdI2IZW/W6hYrI6RdCO3gV2pe0KKk/tR1NsLhftvvzHnAk1lKSjhFcPQx5I8azXYnF X5kuyAhFmt9QIcXhRjfNLsbYGOep83luctxcQy18YT9HMDSRiz2axwYHCkQm1UYfqJw2Il WQwhJndZOYVPsawVJ3at3qcSSyZvqAEtiNTbCPFtlyer6UN5fOl2xYw126ASDaEFiofbob +js9zZPuLzEcyNb7Ia1Yo6H89P9yaeLxoBH8CwDYXS47ATGtLz+Tmpdpe6hs3Q== X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.19 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=snobis.de header.s=default header.b=UHTNPVNS; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=snobis.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5FE7413843 X-Spam-Score: -6.19 X-TUID: hW9b+6gvC37Y Ihor Radchenko writes: > Though ideally all the necessary fonts should be provided by > TeXLive. I am not sure why they are not yet there in 2023. First problem: Is there any free/libre font out there that has a really broad and comprehensive coverage of Unicode glyphs? I really don't know, but from time to time I hear about fonts that I assumed to have good Unicode coverage that this is not the case (e.g. TeX Gyre). I think, it is just an enormous amount of work to produce a complete Unicode font (even more so, if it should look nice). The other problem: Not everyone does a full installation of TeX Live. So even if good fonts are available, they are not always installed on every system (but this part could be mitigated by documentation and/or error messages and hints). But I'm no Unicode or font expert (I only need latin letters). I'm just impressed what is already possible and about all the work done by volunteers. And sometimes I'm astonished by how much work is still to do for a complete and smooth Unicode experience. :) -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.