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From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye)
To: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@plane.gmane.org,
	Sebastien Vauban
	<public-wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@plane.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:44:52 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1sjorz217.fsf@tsdye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81zkiz8zdw.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Wed, 24 Aug 2011 05:16:35 +0530")



Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:

>> Hi Jambunathan,
>>
>>> I have made a decision not to merge org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt in
>>> to Orgmode core. It is a very difficult decision for me to take
>>> considering that I had put all my heart in to it. (Btw, this decision
>>> has nothing to with me not having enough time at hand.)
>>
>> As all, I'm puzzled by this statement, and wonder what went wrong
>> somehow.
>
> Without mincing words, Bastien has to learn how to respect and engage
> with serious contributors. He should take time to look at the data
> presented to him and put some serious effort before sending out an
> email. I am willing to overlook the fact that he seriously pissed me off
> with unkind words and committed a greater faux paus by inviting Lennart
> Borgman in to merge discussions. I am sorry to say this - Lennart
> Borgman did a half-baked work.
>
> I have been patient and tried my best to be as co-operative as
> possible. He just manages to get me on my nerves somehow. He simply
> didn't have the courtesy to reply to my mails when he simply disappeared
> from the list for 3 months or so. I hate to such callous attitude who
> claims to be a maintainer and wants to act like a maintainer.
>

Aloha Jambunathan K,

It is good to have you back.  The Org-mode community is poorer without
you.

Please understand that the Org-mode community is a community of
volunteers, committed to the cause of interesting and useful software.
When one of us contributes, as you have so generously, the contribution
represents commitment to that cause.

I have nothing but admiration for the contributions of Lennart Borgman
and Bastien Guerry.  I am eager to see what they will contribute
next.  I hope that you'll join me in expressing gratitude for all that they
have contributed and that, like me, you'll encourage them to contribute
as the spirit moves them.  

I don't see any other way a community of volunteers can move forward.

All the best,
Tom

>> What you did is a really important piece of the puzzle, as it finally
>> let us cooperate more easily with people we can't convert as
>> Org'ers. At least, they won't bother us to fit their software
>> requirement: we can work in Org up till the very end, and then produce
>> a final result in the expected (by others) format.
>>
>>> I leave it up to the community on what would be the best place to "host"
>>> this software.
>>
>> For me, the answer to this was/is clear: Org-mode itself, hence the reason
>> why I don't understand the above.
>
> I have definite ideas on how the merge should proceed. He should be
> willing to concede to the fact that I have a far better understanding on
> what the most effective method of merge is.
>
> Bastien has stepped in to big shoes and he has to measure up. 
>
>> Best regards,
>>   Seb

-- 
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-24  7:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-22  2:12 Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core Jambunathan K
2011-08-22  7:14 ` Vikas Rawal
2011-08-22  7:48 ` Detlef Steuer
2011-08-22 12:23   ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-08-23 23:46     ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24  7:44       ` Thomas S. Dye [this message]
2011-08-24  8:40         ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 16:50           ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-08-24 10:10       ` Bastien
2011-08-24 10:50         ` Jambunathan K
     [not found]           ` <CAN_Dec_=WKB+ZxoP3bwPRexaFQnptV6rha8iQi+O=V61Frj3Zw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-08-25 14:45             ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-26  1:34               ` Matthew Sauer
2011-08-24 10:55       ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-24 11:23         ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 11:38         ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 12:04         ` Jambunathan K
     [not found]           ` <87obzesvb7.fsf@gnu.org>
2011-08-25  2:12             ` My apprehensions listed (Re: Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core) Jambunathan K
2011-08-25  2:39               ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-25  7:42                 ` Bastien
2011-08-25  7:21               ` Bastien
     [not found]               ` <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
2011-08-25  5:18                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-25  3:33                 ` How to include comments on export? org-exp-blocks.el? Nick Dokos
2011-10-25  4:32                   ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-27 16:28                 ` OT: collage of scripts [was: Re: table alignment failed for Asian characters] Nick Dokos
2011-10-28  6:41                   ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-30 17:48                   ` OT: collage of scripts Thomas S. Dye
2011-11-03 18:18                 ` custom IDs not exported Nick Dokos
2011-11-03 18:40                   ` Jambunathan K
2011-11-04  8:41                   ` Sten Lindner
2011-11-04 15:00                     ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-03 18:44                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-04  7:11                   ` [OT] FSF, GPL, cedit case (was: custom IDs not exported) Reiner Steib
2011-08-24 14:48         ` Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core Nick Dokos
2011-08-24 23:26           ` Vikas Rawal
2011-08-24 17:30         ` Allen S. Rout
2011-08-24 18:50           ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-24 19:30             ` Nick Dokos
2011-08-23 23:24   ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-22 18:09 ` Thomas Renkert
2011-08-23 23:49   ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24  2:44     ` Vikas Rawal
2011-08-24  6:42       ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24  7:26         ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 10:08           ` Bastien
2011-08-24 10:43             ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 10:48             ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 13:00             ` Christian Moe
2011-08-24 13:49               ` Stefan Vollmar
2011-08-24 14:10               ` Matt Price
2011-08-24 14:22             ` Rasmus
2011-08-24  9:59         ` Bastien
2011-08-24 10:56           ` Jambunathan K
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-10-27 11:33 table alignment failed for Asian characters Torsten Wagner
2011-10-27 11:55 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-10-27 13:26   ` Torsten Wagner
2011-10-27 13:46     ` Carsten Dominik
2011-10-27 14:00     ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2011-10-27 14:02       ` Carsten Dominik
2011-10-27 14:36         ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-24 21:30 How to include comments on export? org-exp-blocks.el? Herbert Sitz
2011-10-24 22:20 ` Herbert Sitz
2011-10-24 22:52   ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-25  2:43     ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-25  1:57 ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-28 22:31   ` [odt] Support for annotations/comments Jambunathan K
2011-10-29  0:20     ` Herbert Sitz
2011-10-29 10:58     ` Bastien
2011-10-29 14:54     ` Torsten Wagner
2012-01-21  5:53 ` How to include comments on export? org-exp-blocks.el? Samuel Wales
2012-01-23 18:01   ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-11 22:42 custom IDs not exported Daniel Clemente
2011-06-12  3:12 ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-13 10:04   ` Daniel Clemente
2011-06-13 13:16     ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-16 21:31   ` Daniel Clemente
2011-06-16 21:40     ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-16 22:25       ` Daniel Clemente
2011-06-16 22:47         ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-30 16:18           ` Bastien
2011-11-01 17:01   ` Sten Lindner
2011-11-02  5:33     ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-03  1:34       ` Bastien
2011-11-03 14:54         ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-03 17:08           ` Jambunathan K

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