From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye)
To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
Cc: Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>,
Org Mode Mailing List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT: collage of scripts
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 07:48:25 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1r51u5q1i.fsf@tsdye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11431.1319732898@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> (Nick Dokos's message of "Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:28:18 -0400")
Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:
> [I hope you'll forgive me the off-topic ruminations]
>
> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you do a
>>
>> C-h C-\ RET tamil-itrans RET
>>
>> you will see a nicely aligned table which gives translation table for
>> tamil characters - (OK, Tamil is the language I speak) - which look like
>>
>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?msg=56;filename=temp.png;att=1;bug=9336
>>
>
> Jambunathan's mention of Tamil brought to mind a picture that
> I had seen long ago and found mysterious, beautiful and fascinating.
> It is Fig. 40, p. 168, in Hofstadter's "Gödel, Escher, Bach": I looked
> for a copy on the web, but I only found the complete book.
>
> The picture is a collage of scripts, from the undeciphered (at least
> in 1980, the time of publication) script of Easter Island to Tamil
> to Assyrian cuneiform.
>
> I have no idea what each snippet says - yet there are people around
> today (and in some cases, perhaps, there *were* people some time ago,
> but no longer) who can (or could) extract meaning from each of these
> snippets. Conversely, there are scripts that I can extract meaning from,
> that other people find mysterious. I can't help the feeling that there
> is something deep going on here, I just don't know *what*!
>
> Nick
>
>
>
Hi Nick,
A book by David Bellos, Is That a Fish in Your Ear? Translation and the
Meaning of Everything, got a good review in the NYT Book Review this
week. I'm not sure from the review if it gets to the heart of your
rumination, but the author's proposal that translation "provides for
some community an acceptable match for an utterance made in a foreign
language" made me think of your post.
All the best,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-30 17:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-22 2:12 Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core Jambunathan K
2011-08-22 7:14 ` Vikas Rawal
2011-08-22 7:48 ` Detlef Steuer
2011-08-22 12:23 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-08-23 23:46 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 7:44 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-08-24 8:40 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 16:50 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-08-24 10:10 ` Bastien
2011-08-24 10:50 ` Jambunathan K
[not found] ` <CAN_Dec_=WKB+ZxoP3bwPRexaFQnptV6rha8iQi+O=V61Frj3Zw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-08-25 14:45 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-26 1:34 ` Matthew Sauer
2011-08-24 10:55 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-24 11:23 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 11:38 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 12:04 ` Jambunathan K
[not found] ` <87obzesvb7.fsf@gnu.org>
2011-08-25 2:12 ` My apprehensions listed (Re: Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core) Jambunathan K
2011-08-25 2:39 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-25 7:42 ` Bastien
2011-08-25 7:21 ` Bastien
[not found] ` <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
2011-08-25 5:18 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-25 3:33 ` How to include comments on export? org-exp-blocks.el? Nick Dokos
2011-10-25 4:32 ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-27 16:28 ` OT: collage of scripts [was: Re: table alignment failed for Asian characters] Nick Dokos
2011-10-28 6:41 ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-30 17:48 ` Thomas S. Dye [this message]
2011-11-03 18:18 ` custom IDs not exported Nick Dokos
2011-11-03 18:40 ` Jambunathan K
2011-11-04 8:41 ` Sten Lindner
2011-11-04 15:00 ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-03 18:44 ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-04 7:11 ` [OT] FSF, GPL, cedit case (was: custom IDs not exported) Reiner Steib
2011-08-24 14:48 ` Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core Nick Dokos
2011-08-24 23:26 ` Vikas Rawal
2011-08-24 17:30 ` Allen S. Rout
2011-08-24 18:50 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-24 19:30 ` Nick Dokos
2011-08-23 23:24 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-22 18:09 ` Thomas Renkert
2011-08-23 23:49 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 2:44 ` Vikas Rawal
2011-08-24 6:42 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 7:26 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 10:08 ` Bastien
2011-08-24 10:43 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 10:48 ` Jambunathan K
2011-08-24 13:00 ` Christian Moe
2011-08-24 13:49 ` Stefan Vollmar
2011-08-24 14:10 ` Matt Price
2011-08-24 14:22 ` Rasmus
2011-08-24 9:59 ` Bastien
2011-08-24 10:56 ` Jambunathan K
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-10-27 11:33 table alignment failed for Asian characters Torsten Wagner
2011-10-27 11:55 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-10-27 13:26 ` Torsten Wagner
2011-10-27 13:46 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-10-27 14:00 ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2011-10-27 14:02 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-10-27 14:36 ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-24 21:30 How to include comments on export? org-exp-blocks.el? Herbert Sitz
2011-10-24 22:20 ` Herbert Sitz
2011-10-24 22:52 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-25 2:43 ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-25 1:57 ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-28 22:31 ` [odt] Support for annotations/comments Jambunathan K
2011-10-29 0:20 ` Herbert Sitz
2011-10-29 10:58 ` Bastien
2011-10-29 14:54 ` Torsten Wagner
2012-01-21 5:53 ` How to include comments on export? org-exp-blocks.el? Samuel Wales
2012-01-23 18:01 ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-11 22:42 custom IDs not exported Daniel Clemente
2011-06-12 3:12 ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-13 10:04 ` Daniel Clemente
2011-06-13 13:16 ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-16 21:31 ` Daniel Clemente
2011-06-16 21:40 ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-16 22:25 ` Daniel Clemente
2011-06-16 22:47 ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-30 16:18 ` Bastien
2011-11-01 17:01 ` Sten Lindner
2011-11-02 5:33 ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-03 1:34 ` Bastien
2011-11-03 14:54 ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-03 17:08 ` Jambunathan K
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