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From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye)
To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
Cc: Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Passing font size to exported LaTeX table
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:45:58 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1pqmipf61.fsf@tsdye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21819.1307929971@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> (Nick Dokos's message of "Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:52:51 -0400")

Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:

> Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 12:08:25 -0700
>> Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:50:34 -0400
>> > Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > <soapbox> I've tried to keep a neutral tone in (most of) the rest of
>> > > the mail, but I have to say that I think clever hacks like this are
>> > > too clever for their own good - they are at best an accident of
>> > > implementation. The fact that the trick uses the placement option in
>> > > order to change the font testifies to that.
>> > 
>> > After the very clear description above, I agree 100%. I will remove my
>> > addition to the manual and instead try to improve the #+ATTR_LaTeX:
>> > documentation based on your code commentary. At the moment I am
>> > facing a very important deadline for the 8th of June, I will submit a
>> > revised patch after that.
>> > 
>> 
>> I have attached a patch removing the hack from the manual and making
>> some other small improvements to the latex export of images. However I
>> did leave in one sentence regarding the placement option which alludes
>> that a hack is possible.
>> 
>> Please let me know if this is an improvement.
>> 
>> > > They should certainly be documented as hacks on Worg, but I'm not
>> > > sure they should be documented in the manual. Of course, it may
>> > > happen that a really good hack (by some definition of "really
>> > > good") should be elevated to a standard and documented in the
>> > > manual, but IMO this one does not qualify. </soapbox>
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > Along with the revisions for the manual, I will document my hack on
>> > Worg.
>> 
>> I made an account with repo.or.cz. I will soon push the changes
>> documenting the hack on Worg.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Suvayu
>> 
>> Open source is the future. It sets us free.
>> >From 7f66dba736136fc1a2ee8e2d4fbce47e07db3ca6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Suvayu Ali (ThinkPad) <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:57:48 -0700
>> Subject: [PATCH] Improve "Images in LaTeX export" documentation
>> 
>> * Mention use of keywords like multicolumn and float
>> * Remove previous mention of hack with placement option
>>   as per comments on the mailing list. Hack better
>>   suited for Worg.
>> ---
>>  doc/org.texi |   30 ++++++++++++------------------
>>  1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
>> 
>> diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/org.texi
>> index 92343de..c98bd53 100644
>> --- a/doc/org.texi
>> +++ b/doc/org.texi
>> @@ -10207,24 +10207,14 @@ output file resulting from @LaTeX{} processing.  Org will use an
>>  @code{\includegraphics} macro to insert the image.  If you have specified a
>>  caption and/or a label as described in @ref{Images and tables}, the figure
>>  will be wrapped into a @code{figure} environment and thus become a floating
>> -element.  You can use an @code{#+ATTR_LaTeX:} line to specify the various
>> -options that can be used in the optional argument of the
>> -@code{\includegraphics} macro.  To modify the placement option of the
>> -@code{figure} environment, add something like @samp{placement=[h!]} to the
>> -Attributes. It is to be noted this option can be used with tables as well.
>> -The options are passed as the placement option to floating environments like
>> -@code{figure} or @code{table}. One can pass other compatible options as well.
>> -For example the @code{#+ATTR_LaTeX:} line below is exported as the
>> -@code{figure} environment below it.
>> -
>> -@cindex #+ATTR_LaTeX
>> -@example
>> -#+ATTR_LaTeX: placement=[<options>]\footnotesize
>> -
>> -\begin@{figure@}[<options>]\footnotesize
>> -...
>> -\end@{figure@}
>> -@end example
>> +element.  You can use an @code{#+ATTR_LaTeX:} line to specify various other
>> +options.  You can ask org to export an image as a float without specifying
>> +a label or a caption by using the keyword @code{float} in this line.  Various
>> +optional arguments to the @code{\includegraphics} macro can also be specified
>> +in this fashion.  To modify the placement option of the floating environment,
>> +add something like @samp{placement=[h!]} to the attributes.  It is to be noted
>> +this option can be used with tables as well.  One can also pass other
>> +compatible options.
>>  
>
> The question here is: what does "compatible" mean? Compatible with what?
> Now that you added the hack to Worg, it might be better to say: 
>
> "One can also take advantage of this option to pass other, unrelated options
> into the figure or table environment (see
> [[http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#sec-1_6_1][here]] for an example.)"
>
> or something like that.
>
>
>>  If you would like to let text flow around the image, add the word @samp{wrap}
>>  to the @code{#+ATTR_LaTeX:} line, which will make the figure occupy the left
>> @@ -10246,6 +10236,10 @@ for @code{\includegraphics} and @code{wrapfigure}.
>>  [[./img/hst.png]]
>>  @end example
>>  
>> +If you wish to include an image which spans multiple columns in a page,
>> +you can use the keyword @code{multicolumn} in the @code{#+ATTR_LaTeX}
>> +line. This will export the image wrapped in a @code{figure*} environment.
>> +
>>  If you need references to a label created in this way, write
>>  @samp{\ref@{fig:SED-HR4049@}} just like in @LaTeX{}.
>
>
> Otherwise, this looks good to me.
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
>
>
>

Nick's got a good editorial eye: "compatible options" is probably not
correct.  In the example on Worg hacks, \footnotesize is not an optional
argument to the \table environment, it is a LaTeX command whose scope is
determined by the \table environment within which it is issued.  So,
instead of "One can also pass other compatible options" it would be good
to say "One can also pass LaTeX commands into the \table environment" or
something along those lines.

The entry in Worg hacks looks good to me.  Thanks for taking care of
this, Suvayu.

Many thanks to Nick and Suvayu for figuring out how to get inside the
table environment from Org-mode.  I can't remember how many times I
tried and failed to figure this out on my own ...

All the best,
Tom
-- 
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-13  3:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 217+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-24 15:54 Passing font size to exported LaTeX table John Hendy
2011-05-24 16:44 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-05-24 18:57   ` John Hendy
2011-05-24 19:25     ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-24 19:31       ` John Hendy
2011-05-24 19:58         ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-05-24 20:42           ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-24 21:12             ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-24 21:19               ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-25  7:22                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-05-27  0:58                   ` suvayu ali
2011-05-27  6:46                     ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-05-27  7:07                       ` suvayu ali
2011-05-27 16:17                         ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-05-27 16:50                           ` Suvayu Ali
2011-05-27 17:37                             ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-05-27 18:30                               ` Suvayu Ali
2011-05-27 21:25                                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-05-28  7:17                                   ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-05-28 10:14                                     ` Suvayu Ali
2011-05-28 15:21                                       ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-28 18:10                                         ` Suvayu Ali
2011-06-01 18:50                                   ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-01 19:08                                     ` Suvayu Ali
2011-06-10 22:31                                       ` Suvayu Ali
2011-06-13  1:38                                         ` suvayu ali
2011-06-13  1:52                                         ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-13  2:40                                           ` Suvayu Ali
2011-06-13  3:29                                             ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-13  3:45                                           ` Thomas S. Dye [this message]
2011-06-13  4:27                                             ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-13  4:56                                               ` Suvayu Ali
2011-06-13  5:29                                                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-13  6:42                                                   ` Suvayu Ali
2011-05-24 20:06         ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-24 19:42       ` Sebastien Vauban
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-03-19 21:40 python sessions Gary Oberbrunner
2013-03-20  0:04 ` John Hendy
2013-03-20  3:07   ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-20  6:44     ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-20 12:54       ` Ista Zahn
2013-03-20 14:08         ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-20 14:28           ` Gary Oberbrunner
2013-03-20 17:21         ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-20  7:08   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-20 15:38     ` John Hendy
2013-03-20 15:42       ` John Hendy
2013-03-20 16:06       ` Nick Dokos
     [not found]         ` <CAFChFygsUeBejEY6m2bSU0C5cjLYz0nUADH=s+BYxajfZ2sKKQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-03-20 16:12           ` Fwd: " Gary Oberbrunner
2013-03-20 17:08         ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-20 17:25           ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-20 17:54             ` John Hendy
2013-03-20 18:15               ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-20 18:32                 ` Ista Zahn
2013-03-20 18:39                   ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-20 18:43                   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-20 19:42                     ` Ista Zahn
2013-03-20 19:53                       ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-20 20:12                         ` Ista Zahn
2013-03-20 20:25                           ` Gary Oberbrunner
2013-03-20 22:06                             ` Ista Zahn
2013-03-20 18:42                 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-20 19:01             ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]       ` <CAFChFygPrhuHHyMo2Vk2_OdksWVB=oACA7jnOXN+itUNqh-nqw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <CA+M2ft9bO7DU61vVeYrhduVvkg1V6PMuiyvsOy5tNWuXcSUEpw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <CAFChFyhbeXE4HNLKA6Ubii+MtQwD7=4khAypa+--coZrQiJekA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-03-21  1:22             ` Gary Oberbrunner
2013-03-21  1:54               ` John Hendy
2013-03-21  1:56                 ` Gary Oberbrunner
2013-03-21  7:42                   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-21  7:43                     ` Bastien
2013-03-21  8:13                       ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-23 22:07                         ` Eric Schulte
2013-03-24  1:29                           ` John Hendy
2013-03-24 22:59                             ` Eric Schulte
2013-03-25  2:38                               ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-25  2:59                                 ` John Hendy
2013-03-25  6:34                                   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-25 15:40                                   ` Eric Schulte
2013-03-25 15:55                                     ` John Hendy
2013-03-25 16:07                                       ` Eric Schulte
2013-03-25 16:41                                         ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-25 16:01                                     ` Ista Zahn
2013-03-25 16:23                                       ` John Hendy
2013-03-25 16:43                                         ` Eric Schulte
2013-03-25 17:27                                           ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-25 17:41                                             ` John Hendy
2013-03-25 18:16                                               ` Ista Zahn
2013-03-25 19:30                                             ` Ivan Andrus
2013-03-24  7:47                           ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-24 14:47                             ` John Hendy
2013-03-24 15:30                               ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-24 16:58                               ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-24 16:59                                 ` John Hendy
2013-03-24 18:41                                   ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-25 20:46                                     ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-25 21:37                                       ` Eric Schulte
2013-03-26  6:29                                         ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-26 12:32                                           ` Eric Schulte
2013-03-26 21:41                                             ` Gary Oberbrunner
2013-03-26 21:47                                               ` John Hendy
2013-03-27  6:19                                               ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-30  7:19                                                 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-10-31  6:12 Bug? R: Org babel block execution *drastically* slower than in ESS session directly John Hendy
2012-10-31 16:41 ` cberry
2012-10-31 17:18   ` John Hendy
2012-10-31 20:12     ` cberry
2012-10-31 20:23       ` John Hendy
2012-10-31 20:56         ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-10-31 23:00           ` Nick Dokos
2012-10-31 22:53         ` Nick Dokos
2012-11-01 14:53           ` John Hendy
2012-11-01 15:38             ` Nick Dokos
2012-11-01 18:17               ` John Hendy
2012-11-01 18:18               ` John Hendy
2012-11-01 18:48                 ` Nick Dokos
2012-11-14  3:27                   ` Aaron Ecay
2012-11-14  4:52                     ` John Hendy
2012-11-14  6:32                       ` Aaron Ecay
2012-11-14  8:28                         ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-11-14  8:35                           ` Andreas Leha
2012-11-16 15:45                             ` Eric Schulte
2012-11-16 17:47                               ` Andreas Leha
2012-11-16 19:00                                 ` John Hendy
2012-11-16 20:25                                 ` Achim Gratz
2012-11-17 17:12                                   ` Eric Schulte
2012-11-18  0:41                               ` Aaron Ecay
2012-11-18  0:57                                 ` Eric Schulte
2012-11-18  1:41                                   ` Aaron Ecay
2012-11-19  1:18                                     ` Eric Schulte
2012-11-19  5:11                                       ` Eric Schulte
2012-08-26 20:11 Alternate format for datetree c b
2012-08-27  1:16 ` John Hendy
2012-08-27  4:04   ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-27  6:08     ` John Hendy
2012-08-28  8:49       ` Ian Barton
2012-08-28 12:49         ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-28 12:50         ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-29  7:49           ` Ian Barton
     [not found]             ` <lists@manor-farm.org>
2012-08-29 14:17               ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-29 14:25             ` John Hendy
2012-08-29 20:01               ` Ian Barton
2012-09-06  7:46                 ` Ian Barton
2012-09-06  5:42       ` c b
2012-09-06  6:26         ` Nick Dokos
2012-09-06  7:00         ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-06 15:33         ` John Hendy
2012-09-06 16:08           ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2011-11-02  2:22 Pass LaTeX exporter option prior to \documentclass John Hendy
2011-11-02  2:43 ` suvayu ali
2011-11-02 10:30   ` suvayu ali
2011-11-03 17:48     ` John Hendy
2011-11-03 17:55       ` suvayu ali
2011-11-03 18:07         ` John Hendy
2011-11-04 17:29           ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-04 19:29             ` suvayu ali
2011-10-19 14:54 Prompt for time when clocking in? Nathan Neff
2011-10-19 15:12 ` John Hendy
2011-10-19 15:35   ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-20 16:15     ` Nathan Neff
2011-10-20 17:09       ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-20 17:44         ` Nathan Neff
2011-10-19 16:37 ` Bernt Hansen
2011-08-05 22:15 Handling errors in command line exporting of agenda? John Hendy
2011-08-05 23:34 ` suvayu ali
2011-08-05 23:35   ` suvayu ali
2011-08-08 18:12   ` John Hendy
2011-08-08 18:28     ` suvayu ali
2011-08-08 18:53       ` John Hendy
2011-08-08 18:59         ` suvayu ali
2011-08-08 19:48           ` John Hendy
2011-08-08 20:22             ` suvayu ali
2011-08-08 20:31               ` John Hendy
2011-08-08 20:33               ` Nick Dokos
2011-08-08 20:37             ` Nick Dokos
2011-08-08 20:54               ` John Hendy
2011-08-08 21:09                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-08-08 21:27                   ` John Hendy
2011-08-08 21:30               ` suvayu ali
2011-08-08 22:17                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-08-08 21:46             ` suvayu ali
2011-06-15 10:29 BUG: Newest org-mode interferes with desktop save Rainer M Krug
2011-06-15 16:49 ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-15 17:35   ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-15 18:23     ` Rainer M Krug
2011-06-15 18:21   ` Rainer M Krug
2011-06-15 18:31     ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-15 18:59       ` Rainer M Krug
2011-06-15 22:40         ` Nick Dokos
2011-06-16  7:15           ` Rainer M Krug
2011-06-16  7:29             ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-16  8:22               ` Rainer M Krug
2010-08-21 19:30 Gnuplot unevenly spaced non-numeric data plot? John Hendy
2010-08-21 20:35 ` Eric S Fraga
2010-08-21 20:41 ` Nick Dokos
2010-08-21 21:11   ` John Hendy
2010-08-21 22:41     ` John Hendy
2010-08-21 23:17       ` Nick Dokos
2010-08-23 14:22         ` John Hendy
2010-08-23 15:16           ` Nick Dokos
     [not found]             ` <AANLkTi=WTLBL1Giq0GTrjCo-A1s=iP4u1Qxn57cH-xnB@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTimSVm=-2o39CQ9wSMT276Dee4Tuj9jLKJH-c+cd@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-24  2:44                 ` [For Worg?] " John Hendy
2010-08-24  5:25                   ` suvayu ali
2010-08-24  5:56               ` Nick Dokos
2010-08-25  0:32                 ` Eric Schulte
2010-08-25  1:06                   ` John Hendy
2010-08-25  1:35                     ` Eric Schulte
2010-08-25 18:38                       ` John Hendy
2010-08-25 18:52                         ` Eric Schulte
     [not found]         ` <jw.hendy@gmail.com>
2012-03-12 21:13           ` Beamer specific setupfile? John Hendy
2012-03-12 21:48             ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-12 22:09               ` John Hendy
2012-03-12 22:30                 ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-12 22:44                   ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-13  5:02                     ` John Hendy
2012-03-13  5:46                       ` Nick Dokos
2012-04-25  8:16                         ` Eric Fraga
2012-04-25  8:59                           ` Eric Fraga
2012-03-12 23:01                 ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-12 21:51             ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-12 22:05             ` Nick Dokos

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