From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) Subject: Re: Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:36:48 -1000 Message-ID: References: <87zkl1tv44.fsf@gnu.org> <2011-06-29T22-26-24@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <996130F9-9522-4C0C-923B-A3569336F688@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58553) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RPzWn-00006U-M6 for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:37:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RPzWl-0006tB-Bu for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:37:01 -0500 Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com ([67.222.38.55]:46667) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RPzWk-0006sy-TF for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:36:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Daniel Martins's message of "Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:29:45 -0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Daniel Martins Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , Carsten Dominik Aloha Daniel, https://github.com/tsdye/hawaii-colonization https://github.com/tsdye/LKFS hth, Tom Daniel Martins writes: > 2011/11/14 Daniel Martins : >> I would like to see just the preamble of these org files prepared to >> replace LaTeX files >> >> Daniel >> >> 2011/6/30 Carsten Dominik : >>> >>> On 30.6.2011, at 08:35, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >>> >>>> Aloha Karl, >>>> >>>> I agree that AucTeX is awesome. =C2=A0I use it every day at work with = much >>>> pleasure. >>>> >>>> I've been using Org-mode with the goal of creating reproducible >>>> research, where the LaTeX output is just one part of the package. =C2= =A0In my >>>> case, this is something that requires Org-mode for its ability to pass >>>> results between code blocks written in different languages. =C2=A0I ca= n't do >>>> these things in AucTeX. >>>> >>>> At first, like you, I was suspicious of adding a layer between me and >>>> LaTeX. =C2=A0I was impatient with figuring out how to make the little = things >>>> work right. =C2=A0I'm still not able to control LaTeX as finely as I'd= like >>>> from within Org-mode, but I've managed to close the gap sufficiently >>>> that my last four publications were authored completely with Org-mode. >>> >>> Are these publicly accessible? =C2=A0I think that would be a great adve= rtisement >>> for Org as a publishing environment if you could link to source and pap= er.... >>> >>> - Carsten >>> >>>> The one I'm working on now is Org-mode, too. =C2=A0I'm really liking i= t as >>> >>> >>>> an >>>> authoring environment. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> Karl Voit writes: >>>> >>>>> * Thomas S. Dye wrote: >>>>>> Aloha Rafael, >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, I thought you might as well be interested in my point of >>>>> view. >>>>> >>>>> First: I am pretty new to Org-mode but I am using LaTeX a while now >>>>> and I am even teaching LaTeX to motivated beginners. >>>>> >>>>>> Is there a reason not to have everything in one .org file? =C2=A0I f= ind >>>>>> Org-mode's ability to fold on headlines and to edit subtrees in indi= rect >>>>>> buffers very convenient, even for long documents. =C2=A0For my work,= that >>>>>> functionality has replaced LaTeX \include files. >>>>> >>>>> I did not follow the thread here but I do think I get the idea that >>>>> you want to replace LaTeX with Org-mode and generate a PDF via >>>>> LaTeX/PDF-export functionality of Org-mode. >>>>> >>>>> On the one hand, I do agree that (simple) PDF documents are written >>>>> very easily with Org-mode. But on the other hand you are going to >>>>> add just another layer. This means that you probably end up wanting >>>>> this LaTeX feature in Org-mode, that other handy LaTeX feature too >>>>> and so forth. >>>>> >>>>> In my point of view, if you leave the basic stuff, you should stick >>>>> to LaTeX. And I do have good news to you: You are very fortune >>>>> because Emacs does have the IMHO most advanced editor support for >>>>> LaTeX: AucTeX (with all of its extensions like preview-latex and >>>>> RefTeX). >>>>> >>>>> I plan to use Org-mode as an outline tool for larger documents, >>>>> where the basic structure evolves, keywords are moved from one part >>>>> to the other. But before I start to write the detailed document >>>>> content, I move to AucTeX, having the great possibilities for >>>>> writing documents that end up being great PDFs. >>>>> >>>>> But this is just my point of view. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thomas S. Dye >>>> http://www.tsdye.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > --=20 Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com