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From: Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Horn <jrhorn424@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Andrea Crotti <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Overlays and elisp code
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:22:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1oc6w579d.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ACC8521-CBC4-4AD6-8B92-8C20C4D72732@gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:08:09 +0100")

Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Dan,
>
> maybe just header in the default value to keep the echo area open for
> error messages?

Absolutely. But if you prefer, we could just do away with the echo-area
message entirely. That would have the advantage of leaving the user
interface unchanged.

With the default as '(header), my UI change only makes sense if we
believe that an appreciable number of users will disable the header
message and activate the echo-area message in its place.

Dan

>
> Cheers
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Dan Davison wrote:
>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Andrea Crotti
>>>> <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I found a strange behaviour which might be a bug, but maybe of my
>>>>> configuration.
>> [...]
>>>>> - go over an elisp code block
>>>>> - C-c ' to edit in the overlay
>>>>> - C-c ' to go back when done
>>>>>
>>>>> And it works perfectly, BUT if for example I remove a parenthesis
>>>>> before
>>>>> pressing C-c ', I can't go back.
>>>>>
>>>>> C-c ' becomes undefined and I have to kill both the overlay and the
>>>>> original buffer.
>>
>> [...]
>>> So it looks like paredit-mode refuses to start up (throws an error)
>>> if
>>> the parentheses are unbalanced. So how about we use
>>>
>>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>> (add-hook 'emacs-lisp-mode-hook
>>>          (lambda ()
>>>            (condition-case nil
>>>                (paredit-mode)
>>>              (error (message "Failed to activate paredit mode")))))
>>> #+end_src
>>>
>>> At the moment this message gets stamped on by a message which
>>> org-edit-src always issues in the echo-area.
>>
>> When using C-c ', currently we can turn off the persistent message at
>> the top of the screen by setting `org-edit-src-persistent-message' to
>> nil, but we can't prevent the echo-area message without more code. The
>> echo area message may be useful for new users, but for experienced
>> users
>> it is unnecessary and risks obscuring more useful messages.
>>
>> This patch provides control over both messages. The relevant
>> customizable variable has a different name: `org-edit-src-messages'.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>    Change user option for controlling edit buffer messages
>>
>>    * lisp/org-src.el (org-edit-src-messages): Change UI for
>> controlling
>>    educational messages when src-code generating edit buffer.
>>    (org-edit-src-code): Implement control over persistent header
>> message
>>    and echo-area message.
>>
>> #+begin_src diff
>> diff --git a/lisp/org-src.el b/lisp/org-src.el
>> index f55e292..ea9be6c 100644
>> --- a/lisp/org-src.el
>> +++ b/lisp/org-src.el
>> @@ -113,13 +113,16 @@ editing it with \\[org-edit-src-code].  Has no
>> effect if
>>   "If non-nil, blank lines are removed when exiting the code edit
>> buffer.")
>>
>> -(defcustom org-edit-src-persistent-message t
>> -  "Non-nil means show persistent exit help message while editing
>> src examples.
>> -The message is shown in the header-line, which will be created in the
>> -first line of the window showing the editing buffer.
>> -When nil, the message will only be shown intermittently in the echo
>> area."
>> +(defcustom org-edit-src-messages '(message header)
>> +  "Which messages to show when editing src examples.
>> +If 'header is a member of this list, then a message is shown in
>> +the header-line, which will be created in the first line of the
>> +window showing the editing buffer. If 'message is in the list,
>> +then a message will be displayed in the echo area."
>>   :group 'org-edit-structure
>> -  :type 'boolean)
>> +  :type '(set :greedy t
>> +              (const message)
>> +              (const header)))
>>
>> (defcustom org-src-window-setup 'reorganize-frame
>>   "How the source code edit buffer should be displayed.
>> @@ -320,9 +323,10 @@ buffer."
>> 	(org-set-local 'org-edit-src-block-indentation block-nindent)
>> 	(org-src-mode)
>> 	(set-buffer-modified-p nil)
>> -	(and org-edit-src-persistent-message
>> +	(and (memq 'header org-edit-src-messages)
>> 	     (org-set-local 'header-line-format msg)))
>> -      (unless quietp (message "%s" msg))
>> +      (unless (or quietp (not (memq 'message org-edit-src-messages)))
>> +	(message "%s" msg))
>>       t)))
>>
>> (defun org-edit-src-continue (e)
>> #+end_src
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm going to submit a patch
>>> to control that in a subsequent email.
>>>
>>> Oh no. You got me editing elisp with paredit mode turned on. Maybe it
>>> will last more than 5 minutes this time :)
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-01 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-31 10:04 Overlays and elisp code Andrea Crotti
2011-01-31 20:04 ` Jeff Horn
2011-02-01  8:08   ` Andrea Crotti
2011-02-01 10:51   ` Dan Davison
2011-02-01 11:01     ` Dan Davison
2011-02-01 11:08       ` Carsten Dominik
2011-02-01 11:22         ` Dan Davison [this message]
2011-02-01 11:30           ` Carsten Dominik
2011-02-01 11:47             ` Dan Davison

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