From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) Subject: Re: Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:23:17 -1000 Message-ID: References: <87zkl1tv44.fsf@gnu.org> <2011-06-29T22-26-24@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <996130F9-9522-4C0C-923B-A3569336F688@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34449) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QcKxb-0007mc-5v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:23:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QcKxY-0002tP-Pd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:23:26 -0400 Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com ([67.222.54.6]:49878) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QcKxX-0002sv-Tc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:23:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: <996130F9-9522-4C0C-923B-A3569336F688@gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:04:55 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: news1142@Karl-Voit.at, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten Dominik writes: > On 30.6.2011, at 08:35, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > >> Aloha Karl, >> >> I agree that AucTeX is awesome. I use it every day at work with much >> pleasure. >> >> I've been using Org-mode with the goal of creating reproducible >> research, where the LaTeX output is just one part of the package. In my >> case, this is something that requires Org-mode for its ability to pass >> results between code blocks written in different languages. I can't do >> these things in AucTeX. >> >> At first, like you, I was suspicious of adding a layer between me and >> LaTeX. I was impatient with figuring out how to make the little things >> work right. I'm still not able to control LaTeX as finely as I'd like >> from within Org-mode, but I've managed to close the gap sufficiently >> that my last four publications were authored completely with Org-mode. > > Are these publicly accessible? I think that would be a great advertisement > for Org as a publishing environment if you could link to source and paper.... > > - Carsten > Aloha Carsten, Soon, I hope. I have to make them run as emacs batches first, a new thing for me. All the best, Tom >> The one I'm working on now is Org-mode, too. I'm really liking it as > > >> an >> authoring environment. >> >> All the best, >> Tom >> >> >> Karl Voit writes: >> >>> * Thomas S. Dye wrote: >>>> Aloha Rafael, >>> >>> Sorry, I thought you might as well be interested in my point of >>> view. >>> >>> First: I am pretty new to Org-mode but I am using LaTeX a while now >>> and I am even teaching LaTeX to motivated beginners. >>> >>>> Is there a reason not to have everything in one .org file? I find >>>> Org-mode's ability to fold on headlines and to edit subtrees in indirect >>>> buffers very convenient, even for long documents. For my work, that >>>> functionality has replaced LaTeX \include files. >>> >>> I did not follow the thread here but I do think I get the idea that >>> you want to replace LaTeX with Org-mode and generate a PDF via >>> LaTeX/PDF-export functionality of Org-mode. >>> >>> On the one hand, I do agree that (simple) PDF documents are written >>> very easily with Org-mode. But on the other hand you are going to >>> add just another layer. This means that you probably end up wanting >>> this LaTeX feature in Org-mode, that other handy LaTeX feature too >>> and so forth. >>> >>> In my point of view, if you leave the basic stuff, you should stick >>> to LaTeX. And I do have good news to you: You are very fortune >>> because Emacs does have the IMHO most advanced editor support for >>> LaTeX: AucTeX (with all of its extensions like preview-latex and >>> RefTeX). >>> >>> I plan to use Org-mode as an outline tool for larger documents, >>> where the basic structure evolves, keywords are moved from one part >>> to the other. But before I start to write the detailed document >>> content, I move to AucTeX, having the great possibilities for >>> writing documents that end up being great PDFs. >>> >>> But this is just my point of view. >> >> -- >> Thomas S. Dye >> http://www.tsdye.com >> > > -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com