From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stefan Nobis Subject: Re: Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys? Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 10:49:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <874mq0399a.fsf@gmx.us> <54F75222.8030805@gmail.com> <87pp8o1t9f.fsf@gmx.us> <87pp8o6nt9.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87fv9i9z8s.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bnk60zhc.fsf@berkeley.edu> <54FA9AA9.9070505@gmail.com> <87r3t05okc.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87ioeci6f6.fsf@gmx.us> <87r3szk6q9.fsf@gmx.us> <87oao3yluf.fsf@berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40538) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUuJy-0003LK-0X for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 05:50:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUuJt-0004OB-Jr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 05:49:57 -0400 Received: from basilikum.nobis-admin.de ([89.238.71.130]:46235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUuJt-0004Nt-A1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 05:49:53 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by basilikum.nobis-admin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE92B7E3EB9 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 10:49:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from basilikum.nobis-admin.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basilikum.nobis-admin.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CN5h5x0CtQV7 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 10:49:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from karotte.fritz.box (unknown [IPv6:2001:4dd0:fb8a:0:52c:42c:6653:6622]) by basilikum.nobis-admin.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 10:49:46 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Vaidheeswaran C.'s message of "Mon, 09 Mar 2015 14:49:14 +0530") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Vaidheeswaran C writes: > On Monday 09 March 2015 02:27 PM, Stefan Nobis wrote: >> IMHO keys with lots of ??? in them are a sign of a data problem. >> Therefore the author should solve the root cause. > Not in the specific case that I cited. The Bib entry is a pointer to > a website. I would say, even a website needs a date (in this case: date last seen). :) IMHO here you are mixing two different things: We already talked about direct support for Zotero as a backend, CSL etc. Therefore exporting to bibtex is not a requirement. If you use bibtex as the primary source and Zotero only as a tool to fetch references from the web, then its easy to edit the key in bibtex. Maybe the best way is to add a new export module to Zotero for even better org integration and handle correct keys in this module? IMHO it's the job of the citation manager to generate sane keys, not the job of org to accept arbitrary keys. > If you had shared how I can configure Zotero to leave out the > question marks that would have been the most helpful comment from > your side. I'm not a Zotero expert, I even don't use it. But with a quick look at Google I found this: http://curiousjason.com/zoterotobibtex.html (in the Firefox profile there is a configuration file zotero/translators/BibTeX.js that needs to be edited; the above source is from 2010 - maybe today there is a GUI to edit this setting). -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.