From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id KPM7IY812mM3UAAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 10:49:03 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id iE8qIY812mN8BAAA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 10:49:03 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49F0B89CA for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2023 10:49:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pN9jJ-0001kq-QU; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 04:48:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pN9iu-0001ga-1h for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 04:48:12 -0500 Received: from basilikum.nobis-admin.de ([89.238.71.130]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pN9ir-0001hY-W2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 04:48:11 -0500 From: Stefan Nobis DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=snobis.de; s=default; t=1675244887; bh=gsGQE5JmPoICTooyUvXoHUi0gC05i1+2Dp5UeyDvqZQ=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=OodC0HvtV+l5gkYGBuUDlPabF9SabeQKLg0NSn+P+IqixzaIvyt7BdPSyUhWTJl4H fgnGXEaJS6tDcWkwM3mQEuLK4iPh6nnWyyFVhMse3yK9tMwfU3HUXft+1R/Aq8dRxd yVejSGZOOFkNGfjxgJq9rV4krIs/9tWCbj8Vu6o0= To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info References: <87pmb9k8oi.fsf@tsdye.online> <3035CDD5-41DD-4516-9E4E-9E0DF16BE2E0@gmail.com> <87lelo8c9r.fsf@localhost> <2150768.1675077958@archlinux> <87tu063ox2.fsf@localhost> <87h6w63jgg.fsf@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2023 10:48:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: (tomas@tuxteam.de's message of "Wed, 1 Feb 2023 10:20:36 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=89.238.71.130; envelope-from=stefan-ml@snobis.de; helo=basilikum.nobis-admin.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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Yes - I think most of us here see that. Therefore I really appreciate the flexible timestamp format Ihor suggested. > If you really want to have fun with this (and this thread hasn't > satisfied your thirst ;-) see [1]. Thanks for the link. Very interesting details that I didn't know about yet. -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.