From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stefan Nobis Subject: Re: Citation syntax: a revised proposal Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:56:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87k2zjnc0e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87a90e83ki.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mql7r2h.fsf@yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56014) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNPux-0002js-7S for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:57:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNPut-00026T-3P for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:57:11 -0500 Received: from basilikum.nobis-admin.de ([89.238.71.130]:35278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNPus-00026K-RP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:57:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by basilikum.nobis-admin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7AD7E04F5 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:57:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from basilikum.nobis-admin.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basilikum.nobis-admin.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9l3K7tC9Za-U for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:56:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from karotte.fritz.box (unknown [IPv6:2001:4dd0:fb8a:0:c840:ffab:5bd7:6126]) by basilikum.nobis-admin.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:56:59 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <874mql7r2h.fsf@yale.edu> (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo's message of "Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:35:02 -0500") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes: > From what I read in this and the previous thread, the new proposal > tries more or less to reimplement BibTeX in org. No, that's wrong, not the database should be replaced. The goal is to make citations a first class citizen in the org world (so no fallback to LaTeX commands or links with special handlings are needed). > The biggest advantage of having something org/elisp native as in the > proposal would be the implementation of functions to create > bibliographies with a specific style, what Oren Patashnik called > "Bibliography-style hacking", which is very cumbersome in BibTeX > (maybe is just that I cannot read WEB/Pascal and have a strong > preference for Lisp dialects). Hmmm... nowadays one uses biblatex[fn:1] (with its companion biber) which makes hacking bibliography styles quite easy (in LaTeX; compared to customizing bst files). I do not think that the current discussion will lead to writing bib-styles in Lisp instead of LaTeX (at least not in the foreseeable future). [fn:1] http://ctan.org/pkg/biblatex -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.