From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) Subject: Re: Bibliographic references Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:21:42 -1000 Message-ID: References: <1324071794.3325.1@windy> <9276.1324076905@alphaville.americas.hpqcorp.net> <1324082553.3426.1@windy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42353) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbiyI-0005u7-10 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:21:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbiyG-0004pW-BS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:21:53 -0500 Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com ([67.222.38.55]:60824) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbiyF-0004pM-S4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:21:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1324082553.3426.1@windy> (Alan L. Tyree's message of "Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:42:33 +1100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Alan L Tyree Cc: nicholas.dokos@hp.com, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Alan L Tyree writes: > On 17/12/11 11:25:36, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >> Nick Dokos writes: >> >> > Thomas S. Dye wrote: >> > >> >> Of course, this just handles the in-text part for formats other >> than >> >> LaTeX. LaTeX uses bibtex or biblatex to compile the list of >> >> references. I don't know how to accomplish this in ODT. For >> html, >> I >> >> export from Org-mode to LaTeX, then use tex4ht to convert to html. >> This >> >> leverages the bibtex capabilities and yields nicely formatted >> >> bibliographies in html. >> >> >> > >> > If libreoffice can import HTML, maybe the tex4ht way can work for >> ODT as >> > well? >> > >> > Nick >> > >> >> Hi Nick, >> >> Good catch. In principle, yes, though I've never worked with >> libreoffice. We follow a similar path to produce Word versions of >> our >> documents when clients require them: Org -> LaTeX -> tex4ht -> html - >> > >> Word -> Save As -> lots of tidying by hand. It works, but it isn't a >> pretty process with our setup. I'm sure folks on this list could do >> better, though. >> >> tex4ht has some switches that help it produce output suited for this >> path. It was designed to be configured very extensively. >> >> What I meant earlier (but didn't express well) was that I didn't know >> if >> it was possible to generate bibliographies from keys in the ODT >> environment. I'm guessing there must be a way to do this (Endnote?, >> Zotero?), but I haven't looked into it. > > Even though my original question was a bit ambiguous, what I meant was > generating the bibliography from keys. One org input file, output to > all formats does the right thing. > > oolatex produces reasonably good OO output, including bibliography, so > the org -> LaTeX -> oolatex sequence would work, but, again, seems > clumsy. Particularly since Jambunathan's ODT export looks so good. > > Alan > >> >> Tom >> >> -- >> Thomas S. Dye >> http://www.tsdye.com >> Aloha Alan, It would probably be fairly easy to add a variable such as org-latex-to-oo-process patterned after org-latex-to-pdf-process and then export to oo through oolatex directly from org-mode. That might get rid of the clumsiness you're experiencing. I'm still curious how one generates a bibliography from keys in the ODT world, or if it is possible. All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com