From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) Subject: Re: [org-e-texinfo] generate menu items Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 13:24:24 -1000 Message-ID: References: <87vcd4m5cm.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip94lytq.fsf@gmail.com> <877gpjn9l5.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZrkq-0007UX-C9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:24:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZrkn-0002DN-9o for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:24:52 -0500 Received: from 50-87-16-10.unifiedlayer.com ([50.87.16.10]:49251 helo=oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZrkn-0002DG-1a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:24:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <877gpjn9l5.fsf@gmail.com> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:33:26 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: Org-mode Nicolas Goaziou writes: > tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: > >> Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> >>> tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: >>> >>>> Agreed. Perhaps a new property, OPTIONAL_TITLE? The texinfo back-end >>>> could use this in menus and the latex back-end could pass it to the >>>> sectioning command, e.g., \chapter[optional]{title} (if this isn't >>>> already possible). >>> >>> Back-ends can indeed use specific properties (Beamer back-end does it >>> with "BEAMER_ENV" and so on). Though, I suggest to prefix the property >>> name with the name of the backend: "TEXINFO_OPTIONAL_TITLE" (perhaps >>> a bit verbose). >>> >>> Then, one can access to it from the headline translator with: >>> >>> (org-element-property :texinfo-optional-title headline) >>> >>> Anyway, Jonathan Leech-Pepin will decide what to do about that. >> >> I looked in org-e-latex.el but didn't find a way to set the optional >> argument to a sectioning command. Is there currently a way to set this >> argument? > > No there isn't. > > I had overlooked the fact that you wanted the property to be effective > across back-ends. So, it would define how the entry should appear in the > table of contents in every back-end where it makes sense. > > That's a bit of work, because, so far, node-property values are not > parsed. So it would require to define a new class of node-properties: > those with a parsed value. But then, how to decide which properties have > their value parsed are parsed and which have not? Thanks for the information and explanation. Back-end-specific properties should work nicely in this case. I'll wait to see what Jonathan thinks about the original query. All the best, Tom -- T.S. Dye & Colleagues, Archaeologists 735 Bishop St, Suite 315, Honolulu, HI 96813 Tel: 808-529-0866, Fax: 808-529-0884 http://www.tsdye.com