From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id qNwWLfI4WGHVtQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 12:48:18 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id 7oSaKPI4WGH+GQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 10:48:18 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DA772B8F6 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2021 12:48:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48584 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWcYz-0002uB-6a for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 06:48:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41748) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWcYb-0002rn-F5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 06:47:53 -0400 Received: from basilikum.nobis-admin.de ([89.238.71.130]:50986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWcYZ-0002Qg-AZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 06:47:53 -0400 From: Stefan Nobis DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=snobis.de; s=default; t=1633171669; bh=6RUVcVjFrWulSxHXBHWcR40Wa00Pa7sdzF4GrNPMRIs=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Wv9k+ddwcd9gcMt4ewPNWZMcwFCsvmOzGfhMzyVcxqVj2/Ys44EpTVTk1tK/OeHkN 8Wd/2WHoPQUfokNDdR+vVxQwJZuZNSjfS++1zxC4SpxXiBjj1t4cxee23kfFwzN6FB CHiEV7xvHatLn9lWi+B/5lmOAz07Oy0OCc7ce3ng= To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Org syntax: \[ \] as block element instead of inline object References: <87czoq7z3p.fsf@gmail.com> <87tui1ew1o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <871r5599j7.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmspevjy.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bl49kca3.fsf@gmail.com> <87ee95ekrh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87ilygo4uh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mail-Followup-To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2021 12:47:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Max Nikulin's message of "Sat, 2 Oct 2021 15:17:18 +0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=89.238.71.130; envelope-from=stefan-ml@snobis.de; helo=basilikum.nobis-admin.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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On the other hand, we will loose the ability to inline small parts of math, that should be typeset as separate equation, like: ...text \[ 1+2=3 \] more text... I'm quite undecided in this regard. Personally, in almost all cases I try to let my equations stand out even in the source (Org or LaTeX), so I mostly use the "\begin{equation*}...\end{equation*}" variant. At least, Nicolas convinced me, that comparing to LaTeX does not help much (how LaTeX treats \[...\] is independent from how we want to structure Org documents). BTW: In LaTeX, I like to make equations stand out even further like this: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Some text % \begin{equation*} ... \end{equation*} % more text --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Is there a simple way to achieve this in Org (without using ugly solutions like "@@latex:%@@" - something concise, at most 2-3 chars, better only 1, but still visible in order to distinguish between compound block belonging to a single paragraph and separate paragraphs)? -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.