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From: Mark Edgington <edgimar@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: proposal to have ignoreheading tags/properties
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 04:07:42 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <loom.20140613T053659-514@post.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87egyt354z.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net

Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> 
> It looks like a groundswell for remove-andor-promote tags for headlines,
> but for the sake of argument let me propose the use of blocks. It seems
> to me that something like a "generic block" (a block that does nothing
> but delete its begin/end delimiters on export) fits the use-case better:
> 

Consider the following:

* Test
#+begin_block abc
* test2
#+begin_block def
* test3
** test4 
#+end_block
** test5
#+end_block


Some remarks on this, and on blocks vs. headlines:

- For me, the above example ends up being indented very poorly with
org-indent-mode active.  Also folding the nested headlines swallows up the
end-block lines.

- I find that it's difficult to identify what belongs to what block, and the
need to have both start and end lines to delineate the blocks is a bit more
noisy and can be a pain to work with (what if I want to remove the "abc
frame" -- I will need not only to delete the begin line, but also to locate
where the corresponding end line is, and delete it as well).

- creating a block (manually, at least) requires more effort than creating a
headline (= more RSI).

- It also may be convenient at times to be able to remove the :promote:,
etc. tags in order to have the exporter include the grouping as part of the
exported document's structure.

- Likewise, what if I want to add a :noexport: tag so that all of the
content is ignored -- easy with headlines, more work to do the same thing
with a block.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-13  4:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-12 16:49 proposal to have ignoreheading tags/properties Mark Edgington
2014-06-12 17:32 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-12 17:41   ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-12 18:11     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-12 18:16       ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-13 14:32       ` Rasmus
2014-06-13 15:02         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-12 18:09   ` Mark Edgington
2014-06-12 18:12 ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-12 18:54   ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-12 19:21     ` Nicolas Girard
2014-06-12 19:26       ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-12 19:52         ` Nicolas Girard
2014-06-13  1:20         ` Samuel Wales
2014-06-12 19:34       ` Nicolas Girard
2014-06-12 20:13       ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-12 22:42         ` Nicolas Girard
2014-06-12 23:36           ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-13  0:35         ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-13  0:46           ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-13  2:35             ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-13 11:11               ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-13  3:28             ` Mark Edgington
2014-06-13 14:23         ` Rasmus
2014-06-14 12:43         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-06-14 16:48           ` Mark Edgington
2014-06-14 18:12             ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-14 18:12             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-06-14 18:07           ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-14 18:22             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-06-14 22:39               ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-16  1:14           ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-16  8:08             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-06-16 12:19               ` Mark Edgington
2014-06-16 13:29               ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-22  2:03                 ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-22 23:52                   ` Eric Schulte
2014-07-27 17:21                     ` Bastien
2014-07-28 18:15                       ` Mark Edgington
2014-07-28 18:27                       ` Rasmus
2014-07-28 19:21                         ` Mark Edgington
2014-07-28 19:43                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-07-28 22:01                         ` Rasmus
2014-07-29 14:31                         ` Bastien
2014-08-02  5:16                           ` Mark Edgington
2014-08-06  4:09                             ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-13  2:38 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-06-13  4:07   ` Mark Edgington [this message]
2014-06-13  4:44     ` Eric Abrahamsen

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