From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: James Harkins < jamshark70@gmail.com> Subject: Re: org-meta-return Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 03:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5387.1361401155@alphaville> <5951.1361405498@alphaville> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54204) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U95pT-0002sA-4I for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:31:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U95pR-0006lf-0D for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:31:15 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59209) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U95pQ-0006lX-PV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:31:12 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U95ph-00088F-Kl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 04:31:29 +0100 Received: from 113.109.199.16 ([113.109.199.16]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 04:31:29 +0100 Received: from jamshark70 by 113.109.199.16 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 04:31:29 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org 42 147 gmail.com> writes: > [continues off-topic] >> Have you tried a Dvorak keyboard? > A friend of mine ridicules me for being a QWERTY typist, but I have found no empirical evidence that it is actually superior. At best, it has been > proven, in /some/ studies, to be /slightly/ superior; and from a cost-benefit standpoint, /slight/ superiority according to /some/ studies (and I should add, only at extreme speeds), is not worth relearning how to type. FWIW, and I'm well aware this is purely anecdotal evidence with a sample size of 1, after I switched to Dvorak some years ago, the difference in the amount of strain and fatigue I felt in my fingers and wrists was (and still is) more than slight. I know it's still the case because I have my customized Dvorak layout in Linux (it's basically a mirror image, but slightly different from left-handed Dvorak), but I never figured out how to replicate it in Windows 7. I don't have to use win7 often, just for teaching some Windows-only software, so it hasn't been worth digging through Microsoft documents. I've actually gotten a fair amount of QWERTY speed back, but boy, I can sure feel how much more *work* it is. The muscle movements flow in Dvorak, and they don't in QWERTY (not surprising, since QWERTY's purpose was to slow typists down and prevent the machinery from jamming). I can believe that studies would find only a slight /speed/ improvement, but we aren't talking about speed. We're talking about RSI pain. I'd at least question the relevance of words/minute studies to measure reduction in muscle effort. Studies of finger travel are more on point. The cost of relearning to type is high, but the cost is temporary and the benefits last the rest of your life. Just my experience. hjh