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From: Marcus Klemm <marcus.klemm@googlemail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: how to change the headline starter *
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:53:50 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <loom.20110717T163042-881@post.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87hb6ml6ta.fsf@praet.org

Pieter Praet <pieter <at> praet.org> writes:

> What the OP is suggesting effectively nullifies the separation between
> model and view ...

I'm sorry, but this is just plain wrong. The whole problem is that in
orgmode there is no real separation between model and view.

Any "normal" interactive application reads its data from one or multiple
file formats, transforms them to an internal representation, applies
operations to this internal representation and transforms it again for
the display. One can easily change the file format, internal
representation or appearance without changing the other.

In orgmode, it's basicly all one and the same. The model is the same as
the file format, with some additional run-time-information such as which
parts of the document are visible. And the view is the same as the model,
with some fontification. That's why changing the appearance of the
headlines would mean to change the model and--in the end--the file format
as well. Which, as you correctly stated, would create a lot of new
problems.

Ciao, Marcus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-17 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2011-07-14 13:53 ` how to change the headline starter * harven
2011-07-14 15:47   ` Bastien
2011-07-14 17:32     ` harven
2011-07-14 18:01       ` Nick Dokos
2011-07-16  2:05         ` Carsten Dominik
2011-07-16  6:20           ` harven
2011-07-16 10:33             ` Bastien
2011-07-16 10:31           ` Bastien
2011-07-19  5:16             ` Carsten Dominik
2011-07-25 21:33               ` Bastien
2011-07-14 19:10       ` Pieter Praet
2011-07-15 10:21         ` Philipp Haselwarter
2011-07-15 10:40           ` Jambunathan K
2011-07-16 12:59           ` Pieter Praet
2011-07-17  8:08             ` Aankhen
2011-07-17  9:59               ` Christian Moe
2011-07-17 14:53             ` Marcus Klemm [this message]
2011-07-17 19:19               ` Bastien
2011-07-17 19:43                 ` Achim Gratz
2011-07-18  8:16                   ` Bastien
2011-08-13 13:46                 ` Matt Lundin
2011-08-13 14:16                   ` Matt Lundin
2011-08-16 16:40                     ` Bastien
2011-07-15 11:30         ` Memnon Anon
2011-07-15 10:49       ` Bastien
2011-07-15 18:19         ` Achim Gratz
2011-07-15 21:04           ` harven
2011-07-15 21:55             ` harven
2011-07-16 11:12             ` Bastien
2011-07-16 11:08           ` Bastien
2011-07-15 11:03       ` Bastien
2011-07-14 19:28     ` Philipp Haselwarter
2011-07-15 10:52       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-07-15 11:30         ` Memnon Anon
2011-07-15 11:51           ` Bastien
2011-07-15 11:50         ` Bastien
2011-07-15 12:08           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-07-16 11:22             ` Bastien
2011-07-15 10:56       ` Bastien
2011-07-25 10:12         ` org-icons package (was: how to change the headline starter *) Renzo Been
2011-07-27 15:50           ` org-icons package Bastien
2011-06-11 18:58 how to change the headline starter * harven
2011-06-13 20:32 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2011-07-02  9:48   ` Bastien

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