From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Thomas Renkert Subject: Re: Beeminder/Kibotzer Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <877hgeec48.fsf@berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55015 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PJCWk-0001g0-K4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:00:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PJCHy-0003gp-VW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:45:08 -0500 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:51453) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PJCHy-0003gd-KN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:45:06 -0500 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PJCHw-00029D-LX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:45:04 +0100 Received: from mnhm-5f753d19.pool.mediaWays.net ([95.117.61.25]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:45:04 +0100 Received: from thomas.renkert by mnhm-5f753d19.pool.mediaWays.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:45:04 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Richard Lawrence berkeley.edu> writes: > > Hi all, > > I just came across this site, which looks really interesting: > > http://beeminder.com/about > > They provide a service for tracking progress toward (quanitifiable) > goals, and they show you a graph that includes: > > - your actual data > - a trend line/zone for your actual data > - an ideal trend line for progress toward your goal > - an ideal trend zone (the "Yellow brick road") > > Seems like a pretty neat tool for dealing with procrastination. > > Does anyone use Org to do anything like this? Between Org tables and > calling out to R or Gnuplot (both features I haven't used) it seems like > it shouldn't be too hard to do something similar. I'm curious if others > think this would be a valuable add-on to have around. > > Best, > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > Hi Richard, thank you for this idea - I have been thinking about doing something similar in Orgmode for some time. (I made a simple word count table that I fed into gnuplot to get a nice graph). But Beeminder indeed seems to be more than just a neat visualization. Apparently, it can make some guesses about your progress based on very few data entries. The idea of the "yellow brick road" is great: a simple visual feedback that tells you whether you are doing fine or should be worried. The Beeminder/Kibotzer folks have a short demo video online: http://quantifiedself.com/2010/10/bethany-soule-and-daniel-reeve.php In this video they talk about an Android app called Timepie (http://www.androlib.com/android.application.bsoule-timepie-pqxm.aspx) which they used to collect statistical data at random moments. This should be very easy to reproduce in Org. I am thinking of a specific capture template which pops up at a few times per day and stores your input in a separate table. Timepie would be even easier to use with MobileOrg. Imagemagick and Gnuplot could plot some graphs based on the table. However, the stochastic algorithm that Beeminder uses seems to do more than that. Since I am not a programmer, I cannot really help but simply express my support for the idea and would like to see more productivity features like that in Org (which has tremendously increased my productivity already). - Thomas